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Title: Matt Walsh: Courts in Europe have sentenced a baby to death. This is socialized medicine.
Source: The Blaze
URL Source: http://www.theblaze.com/contributio ... h-this-is-socialized-medicine/
Published: Jun 28, 2017
Author: Matt Walsh
Post Date: 2017-06-28 22:54:23 by Anthem
Keywords: death panel, medical kidnapping, denied treatment
Views: 711
Comments: 7

There’s a horrific case over in the U.K. that hasn’t gotten a ton of attention here, but it should. If we look closely, we may see our future — and our present.

Charlie Gard is a 10-month-old baby who suffers from a rare genetic disorder called mitochondrial DNA depletion syndrome. It’s a horrendous condition that leads to organ malfunction, brain damage, and other symptoms. The hospital that had been treating the boy, Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children in London, made the determination that nothing more can be done for him and he must be taken off of life support. He should “die with dignity,” they said. The parents, Chris Gard and Connie Yates, disagreed.

This is the very crucial thing to understand: they are not insisting that GOSH be forced to keep Charlie on life support. Rather, they want to take him out of the hospital and to America to undergo a form of experimental therapy that a doctor here had already agreed to administer. Chris and Connie raised over $1.6 million to fund this last ditch effort to save their child’s life. All they needed the British hospital to do was release their child into their care, which doesn’t seem like a terribly burdensome request. They would then leave the country and try their luck with treatment here. However slim the chance of success may have been, it was better than just sitting by and watching their baby die.

Here’s where things get truly insane and barbaric. The hospital refused to give Charlie back to his parents. The matter ended up in the courts, and, finally, in the last several hours, the European Court of “Human Rights” ruled that the parents should be barred from taking their son to the United States for treatment. According to the “human rights” court, it is Charlie’s human right that he expire in his hospital bed in London. The parents are not allowed to try and save his life. It is “in his best interest” to simply die, they ruled.

In Europe, “Death with dignity” supersedes all other rights.

In Europe, a mother may kill her baby but she is not allowed to keep him alive.

Again: barbaric.

I have heard many people rationalize this demented decision by saying “the doctors know best.” That may well be relevant and true in situations where family members are trying to force doctors to administer treatments that they, the medical professionals, know will not work. But that is not what’s happening here. The only thing these parents are trying to “force” the doctors to do is relax their grip so the child can be taken to different doctors in a different country. The doctors may be the final authority on what kinds of medical measures they personally should take, but they are not the final authority over life itself. It is one thing for them to say, “I will not do this treatment.” It’s quite another for them to say, “You are not allowed to have this treatment done by anyone. You must die.” The former is reasonable. The latter is euthanasia. This baby is being euthanized. By barbarians.

I’ve seen some on social media calling this case “unimaginable” and “mind boggling.” It is certainly awful, but unfortunately it does not boggle my mind or exceed the limits of my imagination. These sorts of cases are inevitable in Europe, and, unless we make a drastic change of course, they will soon become commonplace here. The stage is already set. Just consider these three factors:

(1) This is what happens with socialized medicine. 

If the State runs the health care system, ultimately they will be the ones who decide whose life is worth saving and whose isn’t. That’s not just a byproduct of socialized medicine — it’s the point. And it is especially risky to cede this sort of power to the government when you live in a culture that doesn’t fundamentally value parental rights or human life, which brings us to the last two points.

(2) This is what happens when parental rights are subordinate to the State. 

This case came down to the question of who should have the final say over a child. Should it be the parents, or should it be a collection of doctors, judges, and bureaucrats? And if the parents don’t take precedence in a life or death situation, can it really be said that they have rights at all? If I have no say when my child’s very life is at stake, when do I have a say?

The way things are headed in Europe, a parent may have some jurisdiction over the minor minutia of daily life, but when it comes to the major issues — how a child is to be educated, how he is to live, what he is to believe, when he is to die — it is increasingly up to the State to determine. As a “medical ethics” expert at Oxford put it, parental rights are “at the heart” of most big medical decisions, however “there are limits.” Chris and Connie apparently reached the “limits” of their parental authority and now must sit back obediently while their son dies in agony. “Limits,” you see. You’re only a parent up to a certain point, and then your relationship to your child doesn’t count for anything anymore. That’s how things are in the U.K. — and the U.S., as always, is close behind.

(3) This is what happens when human life is not considered sacred. 

But what really is the downside of taking the child to the U.S. for treatment? It may not work, OK, but why not try? They raised enough money to pay for everything, including an air ambulance to get the baby to the treatment facility. Nobody is being burdened here. Nobody is being forced to do something they don’t want to do. What is there to lose?

Well, the court answers, it’s just not worth the trouble. They’ve weighed all the variables using their various formulations, and they’ve decided that it makes no sense to go through all this trouble on the slim hope of saving this one measly life. Yes, they’ve used the excuse that the baby is “suffering,” and I’m sure he is suffering, but that doesn’t explain why the parents should be prevented from pursuing every option to ease that suffering. Death is not a treatment plan for suffering. Death is death. Death is the destruction of life. We all must experience it some day, but the inevitability of death does not negate the value and dignity of life.

What this really comes down to is that the Powers That Be don’t see the fundamental value in life. That’s why you’ll hear these people speak more often of the “dignity” of death than the dignity of life. They preach about the “right” to die but not the right to live. And the laws in Europe reflect this emphasis on death instead of life. Over there, they kill children in the womb and euthanize them when they come out. They even euthanize alcoholics and depressives and other people who are by no means terminally ill. Once the right to die has been placed over the right to life, death will continue claiming new ground and eating into life more and more. Death is a destructive force. What else can it do but consume?

It’s not quite as bad here yet, but we’re getting there. We already kill hundreds of thousands of children in the womb, and we often speak with admiration of people who make the “brave” decision to commit suicide. And we already, in many instances, place the authority of the State over the rights of parents. Our education system is built around that philosophy.

So, as I said, the stage is set. Prepare yourself for what’s to come.

And pray for Chris and Connie tonight.


Poster Comment:

I have a young friend whose child was born at 5 months; a tiny little preemie. It was touch and go for a long time, but the baby survived and now thrives. She is two years old now, and shows an amazing intelligence. Her father posts some of their conversations from time to time, not to brag but in a way sort of in disbelief. He is, in a sense, looking for confirmation of what he's experiencing with her.

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#1. To: Anthem (#0) (Edited)

Courts in Europe have sentenced a baby to death. This is socialized medicine.

The nations of Europe have formed a mutual agreement to commit voluntary mass suicide. Why should the death of one kid be of concern to them?

rlk  posted on  2017-06-29   0:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Anthem (#0)

(1) This is what happens with socialized medicine.

If the State runs the health care system, ultimately they will be the ones who decide whose life is worth saving and whose isn’t.

Actually, the European Court of “Human Rights” made the final decision. It's a good argument for Brexit.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-06-29   3:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Anthem (#0)

The next time some Euro Peon chocolate-smeared, cheesebreath trash tries to tell you how much more wonderful their inbred, world-war-starting 'culture' is, shove this story up their barack.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-06-29   8:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Hank Rearden (#3)

Not until after I get some of their cheese and chocolate.

Anthem  posted on  2017-06-29   9:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nolu chan (#2)

The British would never consider Brexit because of things like this. They believe very firmly in abortion, and in the subordination of the individual to the state. England has one of the grimmest histories in Western Europe in this regard, second only to Germany in the longer view.

A Britain free of Europe will go right on as a place of abortion on demand and denied care. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one, in Britain, unless the one is a member of the upper upper class - then the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many. Thus it has always been in that country, and thus ever shall it be. Brexit allows them to double down on this particular feature of British culture. They are not "escaping" Europe into freedom. It was the British system that decided to kill this baby. The ECJ appealed. If the case were in France, nobody would be stopping the parents from taking the baby to America for treatment. It wouldn't go before the ECJ because the medical authorities would not have taken the initial decisions the British authorities did. Culture matters, and British culture is, and always has been, very rules-bound, very autocratic, and quite barbaric. It's a remarkable feature of the culture. Britain alone will be a paragon of liberal capitalistic rights, but the people of London will have far fewer personal rights than the people of Paris, and they will be in far greater danger of real abuse by their state. I should add an asterisk to this: IF they are Europeans. It is true that it is better to be a Muslim or an Arab in London than in Paris. The French really keep them on a leash and don't treat them well. The British sweep aside all native resistance to their exploding numbers, and charge their own with human rights violations if they raise a voice, or a finger, to stop it. Americans speak English and so - these places are much freer in a personal liberty/freedom of speech/honoring family authority sense than England ever has been or ever will be. The English are really quite German in their outlook, and in their obsession for the rule of law having supremacy over the individual and the family. France and the Law Countries are much freer places for individuals and families than England. England is a freer place for the wealthy to deploy capital without restrictions.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-06-29   9:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nolu chan (#2)

the European Court of “Human Rights” made the final decision.

The next time some gavel fondler in a dress is getting the shit beat out of him, offer to kill him to end his suffering. He will no doubt bless you for your mercy.

Anthem  posted on  2017-06-29   9:12:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Anthem (#6)

[Thread Article] Here’s where things get truly insane and barbaric. The hospital refused to give Charlie back to his parents. The matter ended up in the courts, and, finally, in the last several hours, the European Court of “Human Rights” ruled that the parents should be barred from taking their son to the United States for treatment.

Upon further review, the thread article seems misleading.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-40206045

Friends of the family stood outside the court ahead of the hearing holding pictures of the 10-month-old and chanting 'Save Charlie Gard' and "give him a chance".

Inside his parents waited for the decision. This is the final court in the UK able to hear their case.

Justice Lady Hale began by praising their devotion, as parents we would all want to do the same she said.

But as judges and not as parents they were concerned with the legal position and the proposed appeal she said was refused.

Charlie's mother Connie left the court wailing and shouting "they've put us through hell".

Chris, Charlie's father, held his head in hands and cried.

This may though not be the end. They want to try and take their case to the European Court of Human Rights.

Katie Gollop QC, leading Great Ormond Street's legal team, said the case was "sad" but not "exceptional".

She said the couple seemed to be suggesting that "parents always know best".

"Fundamentally the parents don't accept the facts," she said. "They don't accept that nucleoside therapy will be futile."

The court had earlier heard how Charlie could not could see, hear, move, cry or swallow.

Ms Gollop added: "He is on a machine which causes his lungs to move up and down because his lungs cannot go up and down.

"Charlie's condition affords him no benefit."

Following the ruling Ms Yates screamed outside court: "How can they do this to us?"

"They are lying. Why don't they tell the truth?", she said.

Charlie's life support machine will continue until Friday at 17:00 BST to give judges in Strasbourg, France, time to look at the case, the court said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-40423371

Judges at the European Court of Human Rights have rejected a plea from the parents of terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard to intervene in his case.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-06-29   18:45:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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