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Title: 9 Cops Reveal How To Actually Get Out Of A Ticket
Source: Urbo
URL Source: http://www.urbo.com/content/cops-re ... o-actually-get-out-of-a-ticket
Published: Jun 22, 2017
Author: R.J. Wilson
Post Date: 2017-09-21 07:14:11 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 501
Comments: 31

Americans pay somewhere from $3.75 billion to $7.5 billion in traffic citations every year.

The average ticket costs $152, including fees, although rates vary substantially depending on the nature of the offense and the laws of the state. In any case, you certainly don't want a citation, so if you see flashing red-and-blue lights in your rearview mirror, you'd better be on your best behavior.

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Police don't really want to give you a ticket, but it's their job. Fortunately, they're more than willing to help you keep your record clean, provided that you're willing to listen to some common-sense advice. Here are a few ways to improve your chances of driving away with a warning.

1. "Don't have a bad driving record."

Reddit user AlphaAgain contributed this no-nonsense tip. "I don't care how nice you are. You're not getting a break if you get two tickets a year."

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Think you've got a pretty good record? Do the math. According to motorists.org, police issue somewhere between 25 and 50 million traffic tickets each year, and in total, there are about 196 million licensed drivers. If you have two or more citations within a single 12-month period, you're probably doing something wrong.

2. Don't admit guilt.

If you admit you were breaking the law, it makes it real easy for a law enforcement officer to punish you for doing so.

Now, don't go thinking you should plead the fifth as soon as an officer walks up to your car, but recognize that you're not on the stand when police approach you. You don't have to "tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth."

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Don't confuse this with feeding an officer a lie—they'll see through that instantly. 

Instead, say something like, "I suppose it's possible that I might have been speeding." Better yet, comment on how you had your eyes on the road and you were just keeping up with the flow of traffic.

3. Remember: you're not special.

This is a good rule of thumb for life: if you want someone to be nice to you, don't be a jerk towards that person.

Acting like a prima donna is no way to gain sympathy from a police officer. Saying things like, "Don't you know who I am?" or acting condescending towards a cop makes it really easy for them to return the favor and treat you with the same amount of respect that you have just shown them.

4. Ask for a warning.

Hey, it never hurts to ask. The key here is to be grateful and friendly.

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As one cop who posted on Reddit under an account that's since been deleted says, "We're not required to write a certain amount [of tickets] or write one for every stop. Some officers like to write more and dodge calls...and some like to write fewer because they actually prefer going on calls (I'm in this group). But barring specific circumstances, the officer is generally free to decide for himself if an offense will get a ticket or a warning, and what kind of ticket."

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You might get lucky. Treat the officer with respect, recognize their humanity, and politely ask you can get off with a warning just this once. Swear that you'll never break the speed limit (or whatever) again. It really could work.

5. Join the force.

The police officers of Reddit admit that they may extend a little "professional courtesy" to their off-duty colleagues.

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"I don't like doing it, but there's a chance I may have to work with said officer at some point or be in their jurisdiction and I don't want them to have an axe to grind," wrote Reddit user throwawayforLEOstuff. "I also extend the courtesy to family members of officers. Firefighters, EMS, and corrections officers get the courtesy as well. It does not extend to Class-B misdemeanors or above."

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So there you have it. If you really want to get out of a ticket, sign up at the Police Academy. They're always looking for talented young applicants.

6. Wave when you see a cop on the highway.

If you're going a few miles per hour over the speed limit and you see a police officer, don't jam on the brakes, as that could endanger other drivers. Let off the gas and allow the vehicle to slow, then wave at the officer.

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Why? Remember, cops are human. According to Reader's Digest, many police will see a friendly wave as a sign that you're acknowledging your mistake, and they'll likely let you go.

7. Be considerate, polite, and friendly.

As we've mentioned, there are human beings inside those blue suits. Human beings are social animals, and we all tend to treat people better when they treat us well.

Just take Redditor b8le's word for it. This writer shared a story of being pulled over for going 65 miles per hour on a feeder road. The police officer pulled him over and wrote a ticket.

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The user then started a polite conversation. We'll let b8le take it from there:

"Then I asked him how he even got my speed because his car was parked facing the direction I was going. And he said that there were radar detectors in the back window. We then we got into a conversation and explanation how they worked, if he liked them and so on. After a few minutes he tore up the ticket and gave me a warning, saying 'Thanks for the courteous stop, watch your speed and have a nice day.'"

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A little common human kindness can go a long way. Of course, this probably won't work if you're being obviously manipulative. Time to start practicing that loving kindness stuff everywhere you go.

8. Give a clear impression that you're not going to drive the same way.

It's gonna be different for every officer," wrote one Reddit user. "For me, the best way is to be polite, admit what you did without being asked, and for the love of God don't be in the middle of doing other illegal s*** when I walk up.

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"I hate writing tickets and I hate going to traffic court. The idea is for you to not do that dangerous thing you just did that made me pull you over. If I get the impression we can skip all [that] and you'll drive away actually not doing that anymore, I'd rather not write the ticket and go our separate ways.

"That being said, if I see you cut across multiple lanes without using a signal in order to leapfrog traffic, you're getting the ticket 100 percent of the time. I know you're a [jerk] who is going to keep doing that because you feel you're the most important person on the road."

9. Don't try to bribe the officer.

For one, most officers wouldn't accept a bribe, but in many cases, they couldn't if they wanted to—they've got active badge cams, dash cams, and other recording devices watching their every move.

One Reddit user told this story from when he pulled over an unregistered vehicle.

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"They tried to offer me money. Behind me was a very large group of students watching on. All of them had access to my microphone to hear what was going on. I tried to explain this to the driver. He simply wouldn't listen or didn't understand. Not that it would have made a difference, but I would have preferred to avoid having to arrest him for a stupid mistake. He ended up getting arrested for a range of charges." (13 images)

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

This thread and that Monopoly thread were both total busts. Like getting an unsolicited spammy email. What exactly made you think either one was something that anyone at LF would want to read?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   8:30:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#1)

What exactly made you think either one was something that anyone at LF would want to read?

Who doesn't like playing Monopoly or getting out of a traffic ticket?

Somebody pee in your Fruit Loops this morning big guy?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-09-21   8:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#2) (Edited)

Who doesn't like playing Monopoly or getting out of a traffic ticket?

Me.

Do you really think anyone still plays Monopoly any more? When did you last play Monopoly anyway? You play it every week, do you?

And that stuff to avoid a ticket should be more accurately titled: "Clickbait to lure you into thinking we will give you the secrets to avoiding tickets".

Join the police academy to avoid a ticket. Is that serious advice? How about "obey the law and you won't get tickets" instead?

These were both fundamentally stupid threads for stupid people to be lured into clicking on them. So they could be tracked, most likely.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   8:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#3)

Who doesn't like playing Monopoly or getting out of a traffic ticket?

Me.

Oh gee whiz pal - I had no idea that I should tailor my posted articles to the whims of LF's apparent sole arbiter of what is and what isn't appropriate content for the site. I guess if you don't like them that means nobody does.

Did someone die and make you the supreme deity who decides what should be posted here?

Sorry you don't like Monopoly - some of us here are old enough to remember playing it as kids and with our own kids.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-09-21   9:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#3)

These were both fundamentally stupid threads for stupid people to be lured into clicking on them.

Interesting that you clicked on both of them.

So they could be tracked, most likely.

Seriously? Is there an ISIS terror cell that uses Monopoly to co-ordinate their attacks?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-09-21   9:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deckard (#2)

"5. Join the force."

Hey, Deckard! This one's for you!

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-21   9:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite, Deckard (#6)

I notice that there was no mention of the single best way to beat a ticket for minor speeding in almost every jurisdiction in the country: wear your seat belt.

Tellingly, less than half of those pictured in this clickbaitery that Deckard chose to post were pictured wearing a seat belt.

A car in good condition and an otherwise alert driver go a long way to keeping that cop from flipping on his red lights. The belted driver in a decently maintained vehicle gets the benefit of the doubt from almost every traffic cop. Period.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   10:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#7)

The belted driver in a decently maintained vehicle

Yep. Those two complicate the situation, along with an expired driver's license, no registration and no insurance.

I'm guessing the cop is really interested in checking for outstanding warrants or a stolen vehicle.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-21   10:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#8)

Yep. Those two complicate the situation, along with an expired driver's license, no registration and no insurance.

But the cop has less probable cause to stop you and catch you with the expired license, no registration and no insurance if you're wearing the seat belt.

There's always another speeder just like you in a poorly maintained vehicle, who is unbelted, and who is speeding at the same rate. The cop will pick the unbelted driver almost every time, all other things being equal.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   11:15:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#9)

just like you in a poorly maintained vehicle, who is unbelted,

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-21   11:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#0)

Be polite and don't admit guilt are two obvious ones, common sense.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-09-21   13:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TrappedInMd, Deckard (#11)

Be polite and don't admit guilt are two obvious ones, common sense.

Didn't a retire cop post here?

He could have wrote this and embellished it.

There would be different "rules" for whether both the LE and driver were local or a trooper. Or whether the Speeding Zone was 25 MPH or highway speed.

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-21   13:41:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Deckard (#0)

5. Join the force.

The police officers of Reddit admit that they may extend a little "professional courtesy" to their off-duty colleagues.

ROTFL!

buckeroo  posted on  2017-09-21   14:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Liberator, Deckard, buckeroo, misterwhite (#11)

In Maryland if you plead guilty with an (any) explanation they will reduce the penalty based on how many years it was since a similar ticket, as long as its at least three years ago.

Standard is a reduction of points.

I have seen lawyers advise their clients to plead not-guilty and wait and see if the cop shows up.

If she/he shows up they change the plea to guilty with an explanation(with above expectations) If not then the party is completely off the hook.

From what I have seen this works.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-09-21   14:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TrappedInMd, Deckard, misterwhite (#14)

Excellent overview and suggestions.

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-21   14:33:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: misterwhite (#10)

Nice clip. And they probably would have gotten away with it if they had been wearing their seat belts.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   14:33:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator, GrandIsland (#12)

Didn't a retire cop post here?

GrandIsland. We saw him a few weeks back.

Deckard and some of his other close friends sometimes call him FireIsland. Must be an inside joke.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   14:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative, GrandIsland, Liberator (#17)

GI was here? I was sure he ate his many thousands of primers that he has lockedupped in his mother's basement because he doesn't have a job and is without food or any other sustenance.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-09-21   14:39:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Deckard, Tooconservative (#2)

Who doesn't like playing Monopoly or getting out of a traffic ticket?

A grouchy globalist who cheers on his new overlords and death of America.

Please link me to your Monopoly thread. It is America's Game, after all.

Perhaps if there were a new 'Monopoly' game based on international city streets and properties, and "Community Chest" could be replaced by, "Alphabet Agy Mysteries," TC might find the new version tickling his fancy.

Boardwalk and Park Place could be replaced by "Comet Pizza" and "The Pentagram."

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-21   14:42:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Tooconservative, GrandIsland (#17)

GrandIsland. We saw him a few weeks back.

Right. Thanks

Wanna weigh in, GI?

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-21   14:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#19)

A grouchy globalist who cheers on his new overlords and death of America.

Have I been cheering the death of America again? I hadn't noticed myself doing that.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   14:53:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator (#15)

Excellent overview and suggestions.

I has seen the lawyers advised their clients and then watched them in the courtroom when I was there for a speeding ticket.

For free.

And the judge gives a special friendly hello to the lawyer.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-09-21   15:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Tooconservative (#21)

Have I been cheering the death of America again?

Maybe instead you are waving pom-poms for our new Globalist Overlords.

The "America" some of us knew and preferred is dead already.

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-21   16:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TrappedInMd (#22)

And the judge gives a special friendly hello to the lawyer.

Someone *might* construe those special invisible hi-fives as a conflict of interest. But naaaah -- it's merely Lawyers and Judges giving professional courtesy.

*eyeball roll*

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-21   16:06:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Liberator (#23)

The "America" some of us knew and preferred is dead already.

Maybe you're just turning into an old grouch, pining away for The Good Ol' Days.

You should get up, go outside, walk around a bit. And yell, "Hey, you darned kids, get off my lawn!".

"Serenity now! Serenity NOW!"

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   16:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Liberator, TrappedInMd (#24)

*eyeball roll*

That's one way to make action effecting change, isn't it?

buckeroo  posted on  2017-09-21   17:49:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator (#20) (Edited)

Wanna weigh in, GI?

1. "Don't have a bad driving record."

2. Don't admit guilt.

3. Remember: you're not special.

4. Ask for a warning.

5. Join the force.

6. Wave when you see a cop on the highway.

7. Be considerate, polite, and friendly.

8. Give a clear impression that you're not going to drive the same way.

9. Don't try to bribe the officer.

Sure...

1) That never hurts during the should I or should I not issue the ticket(s)

2) Honesty is paramount... I'd rather a driver invoke his/her 5th amendment rights than lie to me.

3) Though I don't believe in equality, and I do find some people more "special" and worth more than others, I never factored this into my decision making process while on a traffic stop

4) Though this wouldn't be a huge issue for me... I can certainly understand a persons desire to manipulate their way out of a ticket... for me it's a sign of weakness. So if I'm on the fence about issuing, this might cause me to ticket.

5) If you join the law enforcement field to get out of traffic tickets, look elsewhere for employment.

6) Not needed, could be construed as "come help me".

7) This is just common sense 101. Acting like a CopBlocker will get you nowhere.

8) Good ideal in thought... we both know you won't keep this promise.

9) The quickest way to make a violation ticket turn into a criminal arrest. With today's video taping (both ways), I wouldn't let you even joke about this... 100% arrest and tow of your car.

This of course is just one RETIRED cops way of policing traffic. Cops are people like everyone else. Some winners and a whole lot of losers. I've worked with officers that issued almost everyone they had PC to write... even their relatives. I've worked with officer so lazy, they'd drive past an overturned car in a ditch on a Saturday night and claim they must not have seen it.

For me, I averaged 5-10 tickets a month, prior to me leaving patrol and being assigned a major crimes investigative unit. Almost all of my V&T stats were misdemeanor offenses... DWI, AUO or ridiculous speeds (like 90's and triple digits). I stopped 40-50 cars a month... 90% were no issued... and I gave no warnings. I figured it was common sense that if I stopped a person for the same offense again, you're getting a ticket.

By the way... I only issued seatbelt tickets during MVA investigations or when I found small children unbelted in the motor vehicle.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-09-21   20:08:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: GrandIsland (#27)

Thanks, GI...Good pointers.

Btw, lemme guess: HERNIA :-(

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-23   11:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Liberator (#28)

Hernia

That was the issue. Good diagnostic work.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-09-23   14:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: GrandIsland (#29)

;-)

It's a sonuva...

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-23   15:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: GrandIsland (#27)

Yep I read it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-23   16:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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