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Title: Fact checking VEGAS
Source: [None]
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ukY_Qy4TCQ
Published: Oct 8, 2017
Author: LNT
Post Date: 2017-10-08 08:34:06 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 351
Comments: 28


Poster Comment:

I don't know if this guy is correct. But there is useful information in the video.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I'm not sure what to say. If you disagree with me, you might ban me. Poor sneaky is being forced to post over there at 4um because you can't tolerate someone disagreeing with you.

So what are we allowed to say if we want to stay here in your tiny gulag? Perhaps you could issue some rules.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   8:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Longest bursts I counted had 94 shots. That's consistent with 100 round drums.

But he's right - think for yourself and don't just regurgitate what you hear.

Got science, math, logic, and reason?

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   9:13:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: VxH (#2)

Not to change the topic too much but I have been waiting for more reporting on the contents of the alleged suicide note, seen laying on the table with a pencil/pen near the shooter's body.

The idea that it was a suicide note was spun by a number of websites. I've also read that the shooter used that to do some ballistics calculations. I would like to see that and to know whether he was calculating ballistics for shooting at the crowd, shooting at the aviation fuel tanks farther away, or both.

It certainly seems that a lot of non-controversial investigation results is not being released to the public. And the sheriff of Clark County is still a raving moron and attention whore.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   9:31:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#3)

I've also read that the shooter used that to do some ballistics calculations.

I think that makes sense. They should just publish the note. Of course, some folks wouldn't believe it anyhow.

I'd also like to see the autopsy results - especially his blood tox.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   9:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#3)

lot of non-controversial investigation results

You are making an assumption.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-08   9:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Great video, Stone. This guy did a wonderful job.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-08   10:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#6)

Aren't you a little old to be such a teacher's pet, buckwheat?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   10:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Also - how far away is the camera here - maybe 20 feet from the weapons?

Notice how QUIET it is compared to Burst A and B in the Tax Driver video?

Good example of just how much of a difference relative listening position and other acoustic factors make in what people hear... and *think* they hear.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   10:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tooconservative (#1) (Edited)

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-08   10:24:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#7)

Sometymes, there is a GREAT video that is distributed by folks on this chit-chat channel; I give credit where deserved. Why are you so hyper-critical?

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-08   10:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#9) (Edited)

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   10:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#10)

Why are you so hyper-critical?

That's pretty rich coming from you.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   10:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tooconservative (#12)

I think you are on the rag.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-08   10:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#13)

Like I give a crap what you think.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   11:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tooconservative (#14)

Yup, you are on the rag.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-08   11:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeroo (#15)

You're a retard and a troll. And not very bright either.

You almost never make any kind of substantive post here. You are a nothing poster. That is because you're not very bright and you're too lazy to research anything.

You're a forum parasite with a toxic personality.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   11:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#0)

It's a crappy video that demonstrates almost nothing.

He claims he's never found a drum magazine that doesn't jam. Strangely enough, a lot of other people don't believe that because they do sell a lot of them, some are rather high-end stuff.

He has no evidence at all that the shooter did use belt-fed ammo. We haven't seen anything to indicate this in the hotel room photos. We have no mention from his firearms purchases or ammo purchases that he was using belt-fed ammo. The police have certainly confirmed the use of bump-fire stocks but made no mention of belt-fed adapters on his guns.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   12:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative (#16)

That is because you're not very bright and you're too lazy to research anything.

I work and make money for my work in the private sector. I define "work" as meaningful activities based on my contributions to those that reward me.

Unlike yourself, I have little need to sit on a chit-chat channel day after day through 18 hour long BS posts. I pop in and pop out out as I see anything. So, you might measure your number of posts on a daily basis as a perspective of "strength." I measure the sheer quantity of your posts as a measure, "silly and aint got capability to work."

Man, I take your post as a star worthy accolade.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-09   21:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: buckeroo (#18)

You rarely post anything of substance. You like to take potshots at people somewhat at random. As far as being online, I remote my desktop to my phone and tablet. So I am always online. I'm surprised you don't know anyone else who is.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-09   22:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Tooconservative (#19)

You rarely post anything of substance.

That is my entire perspective on a chit-chat channel. I am collecting data. I only have 32 T Bytes of data.

As far as being online, I remote my desktop to my phone and tablet. So I am always online. I'm surprised you don't know anyone else who is.

I am just HAM, pal. But thanks anyway.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-10   21:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: buckeroo (#20) (Edited)

That is my entire perspective on a chit-chat channel. I am collecting data. I only have 32 T Bytes of data.

Sure you do. Probably 32TB of tranny granny porn.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-10   21:36:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Tooconservative (#21)

Why would you care?

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-10   21:47:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#22)

I worry about the poor granny trannies being exploited by foreign pervs like you.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-10   22:02:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Tooconservative (#23)

I worry about the poor granny trannies being exploited by foreign pervs like you.

We have to explore your perspective with records and detail to collect our ideas. What have you done?

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-10   22:09:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Tooconservative, buckeroo (#23)

I worry about the poor granny trannies being exploited

Proof that you're still grieving over the loss of yukon.

hondo68  posted on  2017-10-10   23:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: hondo68 (#25)

Just don't call me 2kon.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-10   23:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: VxH (#2)

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-11   0:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#27) (Edited)

Where are his data and spectrograms? What are the parameters he used for his ballistic calculations?

Writing on a whiteboard isn't "PROOF".

He's making a claim without providing any reproducible data/evidence.

NO SALE.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-11   11:07:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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