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Title: Why ‘Indigenous Peoples’ Day’ Is Far Worse Than Columbus Day [savage redskins]
Source: The Federalist
URL Source: http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/09 ... es-day-far-worse-columbus-day/
Published: Oct 9, 2017
Author: Michael Graham
Post Date: 2017-10-09 11:45:48 by Tooconservative
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Views: 267
Comments: 34

Los Angeles and Austin, Texas have now joined the list of liberal-run cities that have eradicated Columbus Day from their calendars and replaced it with “Indigenous Peoples’ Day.” In LA, the desire to dis the European discoverer was so strong that they rejected a compromise proposal to keep Columbus Day and add “Indigenous Peoples’ Day” elsewhere.

“We need to dismantle a state-sponsored celebration of genocide of indigenous peoples,” said Chrissie Castro of the LA Native American Indian Commission. “To make us celebrate on any other day would be further injustice.”

Most Americans don’t agree. A new Marist poll finds 56 percent of Americans admire Columbus and support Columbus Day. They reject the idea that it’s a holiday about slaughter and enslavement. However, if we really want to commemorate horrifying, unspeakable violence and oppression in the Americas, I’ve got the perfect holiday: “Indigenous People’s Day.”

“Long before the white European knew a North American continent existed, Indians of the Northern Plains were massacring entire villages,” says George Franklin Feldman in the book Cannibalism, Headhunting and Human Sacrifice in North America: A History Forgotten.“And not just killed, but mutilated. Hands and feet were cut off, each body’s head was scalped, the remains were left scattered around the village, which was burned.”

Less Pocahontas and More Blood Sacrifice

When thinking of pre-Columbian America, forget what you’ve seen in the Disney movies. Think “slavery, cannibalism and mass human sacrifice.” From the Aztecs to the Iroquois, that was life among the indigenous peoples before Columbus arrived.

For all the talk from the angry and indigenous about European slavery, it turns out that pre-Columbian America was virtually one huge slave camp. According to “Slavery and Native Americans in British North America and the United States: 1600 to 1865,” by Tony Seybert, “Most Native American tribal groups practiced some form of slavery before the European introduction of African slavery into North America.”

“Enslaved warriors sometimes endured mutilation or torture that could end in death as part of a grief ritual for relatives slain in battle. Some Indians cut off one foot of their captives to keep them from running away.”

Things changed when the Europeans arrived, however: “Indians found that British settlers… eagerly purchased or captured Indians to use as forced labor. More and more, Indians began selling war captives to whites.”

That’s right: Pocahontas and her pals were slave traders. If you were an Indian lucky enough to be sold to a European slave master, that turned out to be a good thing, relatively speaking. At least you didn’t end up in a scene from “Indiana Jones And The Temple of Doom.”

Ritual human sacrifice was widespread in the Americas. The Incas, for example, practiced ritual human sacrifice to appease their gods, either executing captive warriors or “their own specially raised, perfectly formed children,” according to Kim MacQuarrie, author of “The Last Days of the Incas.”

The Aztecs, on the other hand, were more into the “volume, volume, VOLUME” approach to ritual human slaughter. At the re-consecration of the Great Pyramid of Tenochtitlan in 1487, the Aztecs performed a mass human sacrifice of an estimated 80,000 enslaved captives in four days.

Also Widespread Torture and Cannibalism

According to an eyewitness account of “indigenous peoples” at work—in this case, the Iroquois in 1642, as observed by the Rev. Father Barthelemy Vimont’s “The Jesuit Relations”—captives had their fingers cut off, were forced to set each other on fire, had their skinned stripped off and, in one captured warrior’s case, “the torture continued throughout the night, building to a fervor, finally ending at sunrise by cutting his scalp open, forcing sand into the wound, and dragging his mutilated body around the camp. When they had finished, the Iroquois carved up and ate parts of his body.”

Shocked? Don’t be. Cannibalism was also fairly common in the New World before (and after) Columbus arrived. According to numerous sources, the name “Mohawk” comes from the Algonquin for “flesh eaters.” Anthropologist Marvin Harris, author of “Cannibals and Kings,” reports that the Aztecs viewed their prisoners as “marching meat.”

The native peoples also had an odd obsession with heads. Scalping was a common practice among many tribes, while some like the Jivaro in the Andes were feared for their head-hunting, shrinking their victims’ heads to the size of an orange. Even sports involved severed heads. If you were lucky enough to survive a game of the wildly popular Meso-American ball (losers were often dispatched to paradise), your trophy could include an actual human head.

There Are No Pure Peoples in History

Slavery, torture, and cannibalism—tell me why we’re celebrating “Indigenous People’s Day” again? And we’re getting rid of Columbus Day to protest—what? The fact that one group of slavery-practicing violent people conquered another group of violent, blood-thirsty slavers? That’s a precis of the history of the Americas before Columbus arrived.

This has always been the fatal flaw of the Left’s politics of race guilt: Name the race that’s not “guilty”? Racism, violence, and conquest are part of the human condition, not the European one.

There is, however, one key difference between the European Conquistadors and the Incas, Aztecs, and Iroquois who conquered the Americas before them: In addition to violence and greed, the Europeans also brought literacy, liberalism, and the scientific method, all of which would transform America into the greatest champion of human freedom the world has never known.

Do the anti-Columbus activists who claim Europe’s conquest of America is a sin really want to live in a world where it never happened? Where America is an illiterate, technological backwater of tribal violence and ritual human sacrifice? Of course not. The only reason their ideological idiocy has free rein today is because Europeans showed up in 1492.

Happy Columbus Day!

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

If a tree falls in the forest (or REAL American/World history exists, but isn't taught), does it make a sound?

This [hypocrisy and lying by omission] has always been the fatal flaw of the Left’s politics of race guilt:

Name the race that’s not “guilty”? Racism, violence, and conquest are part of the human condition, not the European one.

Ergo, Globalist Operation: DIVIDE & CONQUER continues to tick away like a nuclear time-bomb. BY DESIGN. America's pesky large-brained Euro-White Conservative-Christian Male (along with the 2A) continues to stand in the way of the NWO Occultist Conquest Plan.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-09   12:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#0)

The Declaration of Independence refers to American Indians as "savages". I don't think that was done without reason.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-09   12:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Pinguinite (#2)

True. We regularly hear about the great Iroquois who had their own constitution and laws and villages. But there was another side to the Iroquois:

TheLibertyConservative: Columbus, The West, And The Myth Of The Noble Savage

. . .

Some Indian groups observed the practice of collecting human scalps as trophies. The Iroquois would slowly torture to death their victims—men, women, and teenage boys—over a period of many days. Torture was a ritual. It was also a communal event, a public spectacle, in which everyone, including the children, participated. If the prisoner of war was a “warrior,” he was expected to remain stoic during his tribulations and even sing “death songs.”

Captives were burned, not over a pyre, but by way of hot coals that were applied individually to exposed body parts over an extended tract of time. Additionally, the tortured were stabbed with knives and beaten with sticks and switches.Their fingernails were ripped out and their fingers broken. Children would then yank and twist the broken fingers. Captives were made to consume pieces of their own flesh.

To insure that the ritual lasted for as long as possible, those who lost consciousness while being brutalized were revived with food and water so that their torture could resume. Eventually, they were scalped…alive.

Those tribes that inhabited the American Northwest would enslave war captives to such an extent that an enduring slave class formed.Slaves were regularly traded and given as gifts.

In South Dakota, over 100 years before Columbus was born, about 60% of the members of a tribe at Crow Creek were murdered.Archaeologists found a mass grave containing the remains of over 500 men, women, and children who had not just been killed, but dismembered and scalped. About 800 dwellings were destroyed, burned to the ground.

. . .

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-09   12:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Liberator (#1)

If a tree falls in the forest (or REAL American/World history exists, but isn't taught), does it make a sound?

You really are trying to provoke me, aren't you? You're triggering me with your falling tree microaggressions.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-09   12:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#4)

Ok, my bad.

If in the forest a twig snaps. Or tree frog screeches, "Oy -- just missed that fly!"

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-09   12:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pinguinite, ALL (#2)

The Declaration of Independence refers to American Indians as "savages". I don't think that was done without reason.

Nice tidbit of info. NOT gonna be widely disseminated by MSNBC (just a wild guess.)

Btw, I want to thank you for securing LF and all that you do in running this site as well as LP. Your good work should be acknowledged...

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-09   12:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#6) (Edited)

Nice tidbit of info. NOT gonna be widely disseminated by MSNBC (just a wild guess.)

Well, as the author of the DoI is none other than the slave owner Thomas Jefferson, they would not hesitate to cite it as evidence of his ghastly hatred for the, at the time, tree-hugging, nature loving native Americans, citations of them taking settler babies and swinging them by their feet to smash their heads against rocks notwithstanding.

To be fair, and I will be fair, there were probably many thousands of Indian tribes throughout North America, and there's no doubt that they had differing moral standards between them. And without any historical religious ideology such as Christianity to set a moral standard, they did whatever they felt like doing, which doubtless often would be on par with what many would want to do to Stephen Paddock, were he still alive, and for pretty much the same reasons.

In addition, they had to compete between themselves for food, and hunger will make and has made any human culture do terrible things, such as wiping out a competing tribe, and European culture is no exception, at least if you go back far enough. And their killing white settlers was likely a typical case of that, and sparing children and babies would be counterproductive to that logical goal, however savage it was deemed.

I understand there were efforts among the tribes to unite against the white race, which if successful could have made a historical difference but they failed due to local greed causing an inability to unite behind a single leader.

It would be a interesting academic study to theorize how they would have progressed to this day and into the future if Europeans had never arrived. Perhaps after more centuries of tribal war, it would have finally be united under a single empire spanning coast to coast. Perhaps they would have developed their own true civilization with a recognition for rights and such as happened in Europe, or at least a feudal system similar to China. It's hard for me to imagine that they would NOT have evolved into a decent civilization on their own, as that is the natural course of human advancement.

Btw, I want to thank you for securing LF and all that you do in running this site as well as LP. Your good work should be acknowledged...

I got the tip from LP's SysAdmin. It was very easy to do. I'd like to see 4um and all other sites get encrypted as well.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-09   13:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite (#7)

To be fair, and I will be fair, there were probably many thousands of Indian tribes throughout North America

I once, out of curiosity, did research the Apache tribe. Geez, this was never one tribe and they routinely murdered each other.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2017-10-09   13:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Pinguinite (#7)

I understand there were efforts among the tribes to unite against the white race, which if successful could have made a historical difference but they failed due to local greed causing an inability to unite behind a single leader.

I was reading some book years ago that I came across doing a cleanout for someone.

It said when some tribe made peace us at I think the north west territory. That once that happened it sealed their fate. Because prior to that every white mans settlements were destroyed. I can't remember the specifics right now.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-09   14:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Pinguinite (#7)

I'd like to see 4um and all other sites get encrypted as well.

Besides LF and 4um and Robin's site (whose name I can no longer recall, thepeoplesforum.com or something), were there any other Pinguinite forums? I never heard you mention any others.

I can't seem to raise Robin's site. Did she go offline finally? She had so few posters there. And she made some effort to fix up templates and such. Sad she couldn't find an audience.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-09   18:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: no gnu taxes (#8)

I once, out of curiosity, did research the Apache tribe. Geez, this was never one tribe and they routinely murdered each other.

Considered the most savage and vicious of all the Indian nations. Everyone feared them, Indians or whites or Mexicans. A popular story relates that if an Apache band was insulted or angry with you, they would track people a thousand miles to kill them and all their household, even raiding deep into established settled states.

The Apache were really hardcore types.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-09   18:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tooconservative (#10)

Besides LF and 4um and Robin's site (whose name I can no longer recall, thepeoplesforum.com or something), were there any other Pinguinite forums? I never heard you mention any others.

Those and LP. That's it. I had a few inquires expressing interest in new forums a couple times, but they were not serious, apparently. Running a forum is a bit of a responsibility in addition to work.

I can't seem to raise Robin's site. Did she go offline finally? She had so few posters there. And she made some effort to fix up templates and such. Sad she couldn't find an audience.

I believe the site is down. She is tech capable in this regard and was hosting it on her own server, and had a lot of nice embellishments on it with rotating headlines, a geographic locator and such. She did all that herself. But last I checked the web site was off line. At the end there was very little presence there aside from her own. I occasionally posted as a courtesy, but at one point felt like my opinion was not too welcome (don't know for sure but... maybe others felt the same way). These days web forums have to compete with social media like FB, and that makes it harder. I presume she simply decided to close up shop, quite possibly for good.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-09   20:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tooconservative (#11)

The thing that surprised me most was they weren't very organized. They were about as prone to killing other apaches as they were white people.

OTHOH, the comanches were about as vicious and much better organized than apaches. This group probably was the biggest headache in settling the southwest.

The navajos were like the weakling you pushed out of your way while going ahead with real tough guy stuff.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2017-10-09   20:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: no gnu taxes (#13)

The thing that surprised me most was they weren't very organized. They were about as prone to killing other apaches as they were white people.

The Mongol Horde of North America.

People forget just how tough the Indian nations really were. Fierce people.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-09   22:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tooconservative, Pinguinite (#10) (Edited)

I can't seem to raise Robin's site. Did she go offline finally? She had so few posters there.

I believe (uncertain) that Robin's site, The People's Form or TPF or The Nest, went offline in 2014, or maybe made it to 2015.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-09   23:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#14)

People forget just how tough the Indian nations really were.

My sister traveled out west some years back, and was carpooling with a bunch of others she met somehow. One was, I think, a Hope Indian. When night came and for some reason they all had to sleep in the large bus or SUV or whatever it was. She said they were all shivering inside the car, hardly able to sleep. This indian guy sat on the bumper outside and slept there.

Or so I remember the story was.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-10   0:42:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Tooconservative (#0)

The Anasazi spirits are being worshiped by out-of-control leftist loons as they believe them to have been placid, peaceful, nice injuns. When the historical truth was revealed that they killed and ate other humans the loons just couldn't believe that.

To denigrate Columbus is wrong-headed lunacy.

Happy Columbus Day! And to the leftist loons..... Happy Cannibal Day!

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2017-10-10   8:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Most Americans don’t agree. A new Marist poll finds 56 percent of Americans admire Columbus and support Columbus Day. They reject the idea that it’s a holiday about slaughter and enslavement.

I never saw that poll. I do not admire Christopher Columbus nor do I accept that he founded America. Amerigo Vespucci discovered America and he did not accept payment to bring slaves over to America on ships as Christopher Columbus had done. This so called government holiday is recognized by most African-American and Indian people as a day of resistance against a holiday that celebrated slavery and brutal treatment of those slaves held against their will. It is the same holiday celebrated again on Thanksgiving Day but involves human sacrifice. All you need to do is do some real research on who really discovered America and why Columbus is not worldly accepted with open arms.

goldilucky  posted on  2017-10-10   10:58:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: goldilucky (#18)

This so called government holiday is recognized by most African-American and Indian people as a day of resistance against a holiday that celebrated slavery and brutal treatment of those slaves held against their will.

Do you honestly believe that Americans are primarily celebrating slavery and genocide on Columbus Day?

It's silly. No one does that. People celebrate the opening of the New World, the adventurism of the great explorers, the founding of America, etc.

Columbus's actual motivation was a desire to spread Christianity far more widely in new lands to help fund Crusades to retake Jerusalem and the Holy Land.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-10   11:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Tooconservative (#19) (Edited)

Do you honestly believe Christopher Columbus discovered America?

goldilucky  posted on  2017-10-10   23:53:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: goldilucky (#20)

No. It does sound like you think this is rare knowledge.

Here's some news for you: the rest of us were paying attention in 4th grade and we knew Columbus did not discover America when we were little kids.

Columbus is rightly credited as the discoverer of the Americas, whether he explored the two continental masses or not.

And if you're going to try to drag this into a discussion of Vikings or Amerigo Vespucci, I'm not interested.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-11   0:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Tooconservative (#21)

Columbus is rightly credited as the discoverer of the Americas, whether he explored the two continental masses or not.

You can't have it both ways. Common knowledge disputes the fact that he never did discover America and the fact that it was always taught to us that he did is a damn lie.

I don't know anything about Vikings but I do know who discovered America and it's not Columbus.

goldilucky  posted on  2017-10-12   1:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: goldilucky (#22)

I'm not debating this with you. Believe what you like.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-12   5:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: goldilucky (#22)

Columbus discovered America.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-12   6:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: goldilucky (#18)

Why do you talk pc African Americans. That is your first problem. Secondly only losers hate Columbus day. Who cares what losers think. You do or you are also a loser.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-12   6:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: goldilucky (#18) (Edited)

No one except you and other people who don't know what founded means would say Columbus founded America.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-12   6:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Tooconservative, pinguinite (#10)

JHOFFA had an auto forum for a while. Based on this software.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-12   6:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#24)

Columbus discovered America.

No he didn't Columbus discovered the Carribean

paraclete  posted on  2017-10-12   7:51:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: paraclete, A K A Stone (#28)

Let's look at his voyages.

Columbus set out to "discover" a route to the spice trade in South Asia, Japan in particular. He gave the natives he found in the Carribean the name Indians because he thought he had sailed to India and somehow missed China and Japan.

Clearly, Columbus never really knew what he discovered, had no idea of the massive continents of the Americas. He knew nothing of North America, had no reason to believe that central America or the Venezuelan coast were anything more significant than Cuba or Jamaica.

But he did establish there was something we later called the Americas (after another Italian explorer, Amerigo Vespucci, who proved that Columbus did not discover Asia or a route to reach it). And that that thing was standing in the way of a direct sea route to the spice trade of South Asia.

Even so, Columbus did discover the Americas. He discovered the idea of the Americas, something previously unknown and unimagined. It would fall to later explorers to determine what he had actually found, muddling about in his three tiny crappy ships.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-12   8:21:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: All, paraclete, A K A Stone (#29)

A nice old poem you may recall. It's not a terrible summary of Columbus and his four voyages.
IN 1492

In fourteen hundred ninety-two
Columbus sailed the ocean blue.

He had three ships and left from Spain;
He sailed through sunshine, wind and rain.

He sailed by night; he sailed by day;
He used the stars to find his way.

A compass also helped him know
How to find the way to go.

Ninety sailors were on board;
Some men worked while others snored.

Then the workers went to sleep;
And others watched the ocean deep.

Day after day they looked for land;
They dreamed of trees and rocks and sand.

October 12 their dream came true,
You never saw a happier crew!

"Indians!  Indians!"  Columbus cried;
His heart was filled with joyful pride.

But "India" the land was not;
It was the Bahamas, and it was hot.

The Arakawa natives were very nice;
They gave the sailors food and spice.

Columbus sailed on to find some gold
To bring back home, as he'd been told.

He made the trip again and again,
Trading gold to bring to Spain.

The first American?  No, not quite.
But Columbus was brave, and he was bright. 

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-12   8:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Tooconservative (#0)

https://www.biography.com/people/amerigo-vespucci-9517978

goldilucky  posted on  2017-10-13   7:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: goldilucky (#31)

Fine. You finally found out who Amerigo was.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-13   8:10:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Tooconservative (#32)

No, you finally found out who he was. I knew this all along.

goldilucky  posted on  2017-10-13   12:02:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: goldilucky (#33)

I know who brought up his name first. And it wasn't you.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-13   12:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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