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Title: 'We have removed natural selection': Cancer treatment is a 'double-edged sword' by allowing survivors to pass on their tumour-causing genes, controversial study claims
Source: Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a ... rvivors-pass-tumour-genes.html
Published: Oct 13, 2017
Author: Alexandra Thompson Health Reporter For M
Post Date: 2017-10-13 08:54:10 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 161
Comments: 27

  • Medicine allows genes to be passed on that predisposes people to poor health
  • Build up of 'cancer genes' between generations is a 'delayed-death sentence'
  • Countries with advanced healthcare have up to 14 times higher cancer rates
  • Lung cancer is 12 times higher in developed countries and skin cancer 10 times
  • Cancer patients should consider genetic engineering to 'turn off' such genes

Cancer treatment is a 'double-edged sword' by allowing survivors to pass on their tumour-causing genes, a leading scientist claims.

Study author Professor Maciej Henneberg from the University of Adelaide, said: 'Besides the obvious benefits that modern medicine gives, it also brings with it an unexpected side-effect - allowing genetic material to be passed from one generation to the next that predisposes people to have poor health.

'Because of the quality of our healthcare in western society, we have almost removed natural selection as the "janitor of the gene pool".

'The accumulation of genetic mutations over time and across multiple generations is like a delayed-death sentence.'

Countries with the most advanced healthcare systems have up to 14 times higher cancer rates as they are less vulnerable to the effects of natural selection, new research suggests.

Cancer patients should consider undergoing genetic engineering to 'turn off' their tumour-causing genes and prevent them being passed on to future generations, the researchers add.

'We have removed natural selection'

Professor Maciej Henneberg said: 'Modern medicine has enabled the human species to live much longer than would otherwise be expected in the natural world.

'Besides the obvious benefits that modern medicine gives, it also brings with it an unexpected side-effect - allowing genetic material to be passed from one generation to the next that predisposes people to have poor health, such as type 1 diabetes or cancer.

'Because of the quality of our healthcare in western society, we have almost removed natural selection as the "janitor of the gene pool".

'Natural selection in the past had an ample opportunity to eliminate defective genes introduced by mutations.

He said: 'However, natural selection has been significantly reduced in the past 100 to 150 years, and the direct consequence of this process is that nearly every individual born into a population can pass genes to the next generation, while some 150 years ago, only 50 per cent or less of individuals had this chance.

'Unfortunately, the accumulation of genetic mutations over time and across multiple generations is like a delayed death sentence.

'Allowing more people with cancer genes [to] survive may boost cancer gene accumulation. Patients who survive it will have a chance to pass this predisposition to the next generation.'

How the research was carried out

The researchers analysed cancer data from 173 countries.

The 10 countries deemed to have the worst healthcare were Burkina Faso, Chad, Central African Republic, Afghanistan, Somalia, Sierra Leone, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Guinea-Bissau, Burundi and Cameroon.

These nations were compared against the regions considered to have the best health services, which is made up of Iceland, Singapore, Japan, Switzerland, Sweden, Luxembourg, Germany, Italy, Cyprus and Andorra.

The researchers believe regions with the worst healthcare are more vulnerable to natural selection.

Cancer rates up to 14 times higher in developed countries

Results reveal rates of testicular cancer are 14 times higher in the regions with the best healthcare.

More advanced nations are also 12 times more at risk of lung cancer, 10 times of skin cancer and 6.5 times of brain cancer.

As well, pancreatic, prostate, leukemia, breast and ovarian forms of the disease are up to five times more prevalent in more developed countries.

The findings were published in the journal Evolutionary Applications.

Genetic engineering is required to 'turn off' cancer genes

Rather than just removing cancers, the researchers add patients should undergo genetic engineering that 'turns off' their tumour-causing genes.

Professor Henneberg added: 'Assuming that the increasing genetic load underlies cancer incidence as one of the contributing factors, the only way to reduce it remains genetic engineering- repair of defective portions of the DNA or their blockage by methylation and similar approaches.

'These techniques, though theoretically possible, are not yet practically available.

'They will, however, need to be developed as they provide the only human-made alternative to the disappearing action of natural selection'.

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Sperm counts have halved in the western world over the past four decades, which, alongside rising testicular tumours, could be behind plummeting fertility rates and couples' increasing dependency on IVF, according to Professor Niels Skakkebaek from the University of Copenhagen.

Hormone-disrupting pesticides sprayed onto everyday food may be too blame as the changes are occurring too rapidly for genetics to be at fault, he adds.

Professor Skakkebaek said: 'Alterations in our genome cannot explain the observations as changes have occurred over just a couple of generations.

'Modern lifestyles are associated with increased exposure to various endocrine-disrupting chemicals such as pesticides that may be harmful to humans even though exposure to individual chemicals is low.'

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#1. To: cranky (#0) (Edited)


The abomination of Nature?

Yeah. A lot of that going on.

Read Romans chapter 1 for how the self-worshiping Transhumanist-Postgenderist adventure works out.

Mistah Kurzwheel - he dead!

The Horror.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-13   11:18:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: VxH (#1)

The same with other disabilities and diseases,

Medicine is,and always has been a double-edged sword,

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-13   12:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: cranky (#0)

'We have removed natural selection': Cancer treatment is a 'double-edged sword' by allowing survivors to pass on their tumour-causing genes, controversial study claims

A study was needed to determine this?

This has been going on since fire was discovered and harnessed. The vast majority of modern humans could in no way survive the conditions our ancestors of 30,000 years ago. Human intelligence makes it possible to modify the environment to accommodate our weaknesses, and we've been doing that since before the dawn of civilization. It's not limited to cancer treatments. We've even been fostering stupidity, especially over the last 100 years.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-13   12:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pinguinite (#3)

We've even been fostering stupidity, especially over the last 100 years.

That seems to be heading towards the apex today. :)

redleghunter  posted on  2017-10-13   12:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: cranky (#0)

Wow. Natural selection.

Natural selection has made humans able to do anything they want. That is, if you believe natural selection caused this.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2017-10-13   12:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: cranky (#0)

Have to call this data into question. Most people get cancer well after child bearing years. Meaning, what good does a genetics test do after you have had kids and they are already raised on their own and raising their own families?

I know what the eugenics crowd would want to do...Take three generations of a family and gas them to death to meet their supposed 'natural selection' eugenics model.

But seriously...Over the past 100 years people died of cancer in their later years and was equated to something that eventually "kills us." Only within the past 30 years have we seen cancer treatments cure and extend lives to later years. This is usually extended or curing people 10-20 years past procreating age ranges.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-10-13   12:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#2)

Medicine is,and always has been a double-edged sword,

Yah. Take a simple cesarean birth delivery for example. Lots of otherwise healthy children (and mothers) wouldn't be alive without that medical capability.

The moral dilemma increases significantly when the insanity of the Transhumanist-Posgenderist mentality gains the technological power to inflict itself.

Everybody who wants to become part of an extinct species raise your hand? { not raising my hand }

VxH  posted on  2017-10-13   13:10:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite (#3) (Edited)

Human intelligence makes it possible to modify the environment to accommodate our weaknesses, and we've been doing that since before the dawn of civilization. It's not limited to cancer treatments.

There is a reason we have more diabetics today than at any time in history. Prior to modern times they didn't live very long.

Neither did blind people,crippled people,sickly children,etc,etc,etc.

Of course,there are also medical downsides to modern life. I was a child in a time before air-conditioning and wall to wall carpets were seen anywhere but in the homes of the wealthy. Even then,the wealthy had carpets made from wool,not synthetic fibers.

The result was I can not remember ONE single child in elementary school with me that had allergies or breathing problems. Since then practically everybody in the country has air-conditioning and wall to wall synthetic caprets in every room in the house,including the bathrooms for some reason. Which HAS to be THE dumbest damn idea of all time.

Now at times it seems like you there are more kids with allergies,physical and emotional problems,and inhalers in their pockets so they can breath if they get excited than there are normal,healthy children. What did anyone think would happen once you started laying infants down on the carpets in your house and let them crawl around breathing the fumes from the chemicals like formaldehyde sprayed on the carpet,pet urine,mold and mildue from water tracked in from outside that takes days to dry,etc,etc,etc?

Does ANYONE think breathing that crap is good for developing lungs and immune systems?

IMHO,there ought to be a freaking law making wall to wall carpeting illegal in any building that houses children,and that goes double for synthetic carpeting.

"Throw carpets" that you can wash and hang up on a line to dry in the sun are ok,but NEVER wall to wall synthetic carpeting.

BTW,that is just one example,and maybe my biggest pet peeve.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-13   15:35:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter (#6)

But seriously...Over the past 100 years people died of cancer in their later years and was equated to something that eventually "kills us."

Nah,most born with genetic weaknesses died of "natural causes" like heart attacks,strokes,diabetes,etc,etc,etc long before they got old enough to be geezers.

The ones that were born with good genes lived to be REALLY old,like one grandfather of mine that died at 103. He might have lived longer,but he liked to drink white whiskey and eat pork and red meat,and he liked smoking his pipe,too.

You just didn't see sickly children in high school back prior to the 1960's. They didn't live long enough to get to high school.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-13   15:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: VxH (#7)

The moral dilemma increases significantly when the insanity of the Transhumanist-Posgenderist mentality

Please explain. I have no idea what that is.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-13   15:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#10) (Edited)

The moral dilemma increases significantly when the insanity of the Transhumanist-Posgenderist mentality

Please explain. I have no idea what that is.

Meet the New Übermensch , same as the Old Übermensch  .

https://www.google.com/search? q=ubermensch+transhumanism

In summary -- Humans, and the way Natural Selection decided we reproduce, are obsolete and can be "improved" upon:

"The most common transhumanist thesis is that human beings may eventually be able to transform themselves into different beings with abilities so greatly expanded from the natural condition as to merit the label of  posthuman beings. [2]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Transhumanism

Cultural roots [edit]

Postgenderism as a cultural phenomenon has roots in feminism,  masculism, along with the androgyny,  metrosexual/technosexual  and transgender  movements. However, it has been through the application of transhumanist  philosophy that postgenderists have conceived the potential for actual morphological changes to the members of the human species and how future humans in a postgender society will reproduce. In this sense, it is an offshoot of transhumanism, posthumanism,[2] and futurism. [1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Postgenderism

 

 

 

VxH  posted on  2017-10-13   15:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: VxH (#11)

and the way Natural Selection decided we reproduce, are obsolete and can be "improved" upon:

I dunno...If you ask me "the way Natural Selection decided we reproduce" is pretty good as is.

Just sayin'

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-13   16:59:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Vicomte13 (#12)

I dunno...If you ask me "the way Natural Selection decided we reproduce" is pretty good as is.

Hey I agree.

The Transumanist-Postgenderist social engineers evidently Not. So. Much!

VxH  posted on  2017-10-13   17:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: redleghunter (#6) (Edited)

Have to call this data into question. Most people get cancer well after child bearing years. Meaning, what good does a genetics test do after you have had kids and they are already raised on their own and raising their own families?

More. These genes would not be eliminated by natural selection. They were already passed to the next generation. On the other hand few people who get cancer before having children quite often do not try to have them,

A Pole  posted on  2017-10-13   17:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#8)

Neither did blind people,crippled people,sickly children,etc,etc,etc.

Do they have many children? If not their genes get eliminated from the pool anyway. You do not "need" to kill them earlier.

A Pole  posted on  2017-10-13   17:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pinguinite (#3)

A study was needed to determine this?

Not just a study but a 'controversial' study.

So I'm guessing the author's answer to your question would be 'yes'.

that's my story and i'm sticking to it

cranky  posted on  2017-10-13   18:13:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: redleghunter (#6)

Meaning, what good does a genetics test do after you have had kids and they are already raised on their own and raising their own families?

My guess would be that a such test at that stage would be for information only and be of little practical value.

But such a test given to a newborn might prove to have some predictive value.

that's my story and i'm sticking to it

cranky  posted on  2017-10-13   18:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: VxH (#11)

Postgenderism as a cultural phenomenon has roots in feminism, masculism, along with the androgyny, metrosexual/technosexual and transgender movements. However, it has been through the application of transhumanist philosophy that postgenderists have conceived the potential for actual morphological changes to the members of the human species and how future humans in a postgender society will reproduce. In this sense, it is an offshoot of transhumanism, posthumanism,[2] and futurism. [1]

That essay should begin with "Once upon a time........",like all other fairy tales.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-13   18:35:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: VxH (#13)

The Transumanist-Postgenderist social engineers evidently Not. So. Much!

Cut 'em some slack! They are all having too much fun playing video games in their mother's basement to be bothered with girls.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-13   18:37:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A Pole (#15)

Do they have many children? If not their genes get eliminated from the pool anyway. You do not "need" to kill them earlier.

Uhhhh,that was kinda the point I was making.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-13   18:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: cranky (#17)

My guess would be that a such test at that stage would be for information only and be of little practical value.

And if the test comes out positive, then what? What are the odds?

redleghunter  posted on  2017-10-13   23:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: redleghunter (#21)

And if the test comes out positive, then what?

Live like you are dying, I guess.

As for odds, I guess that depends on whether or not you believe dna equals destiny.

that's my story and i'm sticking to it

cranky  posted on  2017-10-14   7:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#18)

That essay should begin with "Once upon a time........",like all other fairy tales.

Peter you are already 75 percent with their agenda.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-14   8:19:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#23)

Postgenderism as a cultural phenomenon has roots in feminism, masculism, along with the androgyny, metrosexual/technosexual and transgender movements. However, it has been through the application of transhumanist philosophy that postgenderists have conceived the potential for actual morphological changes to the members of the human species and how future humans in a postgender society will reproduce. In this sense, it is an offshoot of transhumanism, posthumanism,[2] and futurism. [1]

That essay should begin with "Once upon a time........",like all other fairy tales.

Peter you are already 75 percent with their agenda.

So,you agree with the quote above,and believe I am wrong when I identify it as HorseHillary?

State your case.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-14   9:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#18) (Edited)

>>That essay should begin with "Once upon a time........",like all other fairy tales.

Yeah - but it's a bit of a problem when the insane Transhumanist- Postgenderist fairies subvert and usurp the technocracy... and learn how to fly with nuclear weapons on board.

Rom 1:25-26

25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator — who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.

NIV

https://duckduckgo.com/? q=USAFA+Lesbian+Commandant

"Army punishes officer who halted lesbians' public 'make-out'"
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3586304/posts?page=19


"Kindergarten celebrates 5-year-old transgender ‘transition;’ kids traumatized"
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3585968/posts

Etc Etc

 

VxH  posted on  2017-10-14   10:04:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#24)

Postgenderism as a cultural phenomenon has roots in feminism, masculism, along with the androgyny, metrosexual/technosexual and transgender movements. However, it has been through the application of transhumanist philosophy that postgenderists have conceived the potential for actual morphological changes to the members of the human species and how future humans in a postgender society will reproduce. In this sense, it is an offshoot of transhumanism, posthumanism,[2] and futurism. [1] That essay should begin with "Once upon a time........",like all other fairy tales.

Peter you are already 75 percent with their agenda.

So,you agree with the quote above,and believe I am wrong when I identify it as HorseHillary?

State your case.

You support gay marriage. You believe lie that faggots were born that way.

That was 75 percent of their perverted victory. Which you support.

It is what it is. Lets see if the conversation goes the usual way.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-14   13:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#26)

You support gay marriage.

I don't even support heterosexual marriage.

I'm just not so arrogant that I think that *I* have the right or the authority to tell anyone who they can or cant's marry,as long as both want to marry,neither is retarded,or a minor.

Do YOU think that YOU have the authority to tell someone who they can or can't marry? If you do,you are not someone who believes in America or living free. You are someone that wants to live in a religious police state as long as it is YOUR religion giving the orders to the police.

You believe lie that faggots were born that way.

And YOU think anyone can be convinced to be a homosexual.

It's even possible you think that the fact that you are married to a woman is proof that YOU aren't a homosexual.

Not that I think you are. Frankly,I don't give a damn about who you or anyone else has sex with as long as they aren't children or retarded,and have the ability to give consent.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-14   17:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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