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Title: Wrecked And Retching: Obscure Vomiting Illness Linked To Long-Term Pot Use
Source: KOED News
URL Source: https://ww2.kqed.org/stateofhealth/ ... s-linked-to-long-term-pot-use/
Published: Nov 21, 2017
Author: Pauline Bartolone
Post Date: 2017-11-22 07:45:11 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 279
Comments: 78

For 17 years, Chalfonte LeNee Queen suffered periodic episodes of violent retching and abdominal pain that would knock her off her feet for days, sometimes leaving her writhing on the floor in pain.

“I’ve screamed out for death,” said Queen, 48, who lives in San Diego. “I’ve cried out for my mom who’s been dead for 20 years, mentally not realizing she can’t come to me.”

Queen lost a modeling job after being mistaken for an alcoholic. She racked up tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills, and her nausea interrupted her sex life. Toward the end of her illness, Queen, who stands 5-foot-9, weighed in at a frail 109 pounds.

Throughout the nearly two decades of pain, vomiting and mental fog, she visited the hospital about three times a year, but doctors never got to the bottom of what was ailing her. By 2016, she thought she was dying, that she “must have some sort of cancer or something they can’t detect,” Queen said.

But she didn’t have cancer. She had an obscure syndrome called cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, a condition only recently acknowledged by the medical community. It affects a small population — namely, a subset of marijuana users who smoke multiple times a day for months, years or even decades.

There’s no hard data on the prevalence of the illness. But in California and Colorado, which have loosened marijuana laws in recent years, emergency physicians say they’re seeing it more often. One study in Colorado suggests there may be a link.

Dr. Aimee Moulin, an emergency room physician at UC-Davis Medical Center in Sacramento, said she has seen a rise in the number of cases since California voters legalized recreational marijuana last November. She expects to see another increase after commercial sales are permitted starting in January.

Doctors say it’s difficult to treat the condition. There is no cure other than to quit using marijuana, and many patients are skeptical that cannabis is making them sick, so they keep using it and their vomiting episodes continue.

Doctors can do little to relieve the symptoms, since traditional anti-nausea medications often don’t work and there are no pills to prevent the onset of an episode. Patients may need intravenous hydration and hospital stays until the symptoms subside.

“That’s really frustrating as an emergency physician,” said Moulin. “I really like to make people feel better.”

Diagnosing the syndrome can also be frustrating — and expensive. There is no blood test to link the stomach ailment with marijuana use, so physicians often order pricey CT scans and lab tests to rule out other medical problems.

Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome was first documented in Australia in 2004. Physicians have historically misdiagnosed it as the more generic cyclic vomiting syndrome, which has no identifiable cause or, as in Queen’s case, acute intermittent porphyria (AIP).

“Five years ago, this wasn’t something that [doctors] had on their radar,” said Dr. Kennon Heard, an emergency physician at the University of Colorado in Aurora, who co-authored the Colorado study showing a possible tie between the liberalization of marijuana and a surge of the vomiting illness. “We’re at least making the diagnosis more now.”

One surefire sign of the illness is when patients find relief in hot showers and baths. Queen said she would vomit repeatedly unless she was in a hot shower — so she’d stay in there for hours. Toxicologists say the heat may distract the brain from pain receptors in the abdomen but, like the syndrome itself, that phenomenon is not well understood.

The exact cause of the condition is still a mystery. Toxicologists say the chemical compounds in marijuana may throw off the normal function of the body’s cannabinoid receptors, which help regulate the nervous system.

Some people may be genetically predisposed to the syndrome, or marijuana’s potency or chemical makeup may have changed over time, said Dr. Craig Smollin, medical director of the San Francisco division of the California Poison Control System, who also works as an emergency physician at Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital.

The vomiting link to cannabis is counterintuitive to many, because of its widely known reputation as an anti-nausea remedy for cancer patients.

“A lot of times, people just don’t believe you,” said Dr. John Coburn, an emergency physician at Kaiser Permanente in south Sacramento. Even after being told that quitting may help, some patients will visit the hospital multiple times before they stop smoking marijuana, Coburn said. “I can’t really tell you why. I mean, why do people ride motorcycles without helmets on?”

Cameron Nicole Beard, 19, of East Moline, Ill., said she struggled to believe her doctors about the link between pot and severe vomiting.

“Who wants to be told you can’t smoke marijuana, when you think marijuana can help?” said Beard, while recovering from a marijuana-related vomiting episode at a University of Iowa hospital in Iowa City, Iowa, last month. She said she had lost 20 pounds in 10 days.

Although there’s still no magic cure for a patient’s marijuana-related hyperemesis, Moulin and other doctors say they’re getting better at treating the symptoms, using old anti-psychotic medications and cream for muscle aches.

Dr. Heard said the cases in Colorado seem to have leveled off. But without hard data, and because the overall numbers are small, it’s hard to say for sure. Heard said he doesn’t believe cases of the pot syndrome increased after recreational use was legalized in 2012, because chronic users probably already had medical marijuana cards.

Chalfonte LeNee Queen is still struggling to completely quit marijuana, but her symptoms are down to a dull stomachache. She now smokes a couple of times a day, compared with her near-constant use in the past. She said it’s the only thing that works for her depression and anxiety.

Queen is back to a healthy weight and hasn’t been to the hospital in a year. She said she wouldn’t want to discourage anybody from smoking weed; she just wants people to know heavy use can bring them some serious misery.

“Now, if I get sick, as sad as I’ll be and as upset and disappointed with myself as I would be, at least it’s a freaking choice,” she said.


Poster Comment:

Suffering from cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome?

Suggested treatment?

Medical marijuana….ya think?

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

Retching...Vomiting

Pretty much my reaction to anything you post.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-11-22   8:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#1)

Retching...Vomiting

Definite symptoms of suffering from cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome. These symptoms have been reported to be improved temporarily by taking a hot shower or bath or more fully by stopping the use of cannabis.

The syndrome was described by Allen and colleagues (2004), and Sontineni and colleagues (2009) who offer simplified clinical diagnostic criteria. A subsequent, larger study reported a case series of 98 subjects with cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, confirming the earlier reported findings.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-22   9:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin (#0)

She said she had lost 20 pounds in 10 days.

Sounds like a new marketing opportunity for marijuana vendors: "The Ultimate Marijuana Diet!" "Proven effective!" "Lose 20 pounds in ten days without hunger or exercise, just by getting buzzed!"

See? Marijuana is a proven CURE FOR OBESITY! Woo hoo!

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-11-22   9:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome is nothing to laugh about. Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome is a new and under recognized clinical entity. Although its prevalence is unknown, numerous publications have preliminarily established its unique clinical characteristics. CHS should be considered as a plausible diagnosis in the setting of patients with recurrent intractable vomiting and strong history of cannabis abuse. Despite the well-established anti-emetic properties of marijuana, there is increasing evidence of its paradoxical effects on the gastrointestinal tract and CNS. Further initiatives are needed to determine this disease prevalence and its other epidemiological characteristics, natural history, and pathophysiology. Additional treatments are needed and efforts to discontinue cannabis abuse are paramount.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-22   9:20:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin (#2) (Edited)

Definite symptoms of suffering from cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome.

Nah - just watching you post the same melodramatic, Reefer Madness bullshit over and over and over again is enought to induce vomiting.

Add to that your condescending, holier-than-thou, nanny-state assholery.

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Where's your outrage at the effects of alcohol hypocrite?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-11-22   10:35:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin, splash, hurl, Sterno (#0)

It's the Sterno, stupid!

hondo68  posted on  2017-11-22   11:52:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#6)

Tater's problem is that he lives in paralyzing fear that someone, somewhere may be enjoying themselves without asking permission from the gooberment first.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-11-22   12:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#7)

This is some serious shit illness and you guys are making fun of your fellow potheads in pain.

For more than two years, Lance Crowder was having severe abdominal pain and vomiting, and no local doctor could figure out why. Finally, an emergency room physician in Indianapolis had an idea. “The first question he asked was if I was taking hot showers to find relief. When he asked me that question, I basically fell into tears because I knew he had an answer,” Crowder said. The answer was cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, or CHS. It’s caused by heavy, long-term use of various forms of marijuana. For unclear reasons, the nausea and vomiting are relieved by hot showers or baths.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-22   13:56:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#8)

This is some serious shit illness...

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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-11-22   16:03:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deckard (#5)

" your condescending, holier-than-thou, nanny-state assholery. "

LOL !!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

Stoner  posted on  2017-11-22   16:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#9)

CHS is characterized by recurrent, hyperemetic episodes in the context of chronic, daily Cannabis use. The average age of onset is 25.6 years (range: 16 to 51 years). Ninety-five percent of CHS patients used Cannabis daily, for, on average, 9.8 years before symptom onset.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-22   17:08:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#7)

Tater's problem is that he lives in paralyzing fear that someone, somewhere may be enjoying themselves without asking permission from the gooberment first.
I have no problem and I do not live in fear, but I will express concern about the underlying problem of the drug epidemic drugging down Americans.

There can no longer be any question on the scientific certainty of marijuana being addictive or having a profoundly deleterious degradation effect in the brain synapses. Confirmation of this is readily available on the Internet through numerous scientific studies.

The argument against the use of marijuana is left with the conclusion that tax revenue from the sale of marijuana is a viable trade-off for funding government expansion at the expense of public health.

It is insane to argue that the 88,000 deaths each year from alcohol should be augmented and increased with additional opiate like mind altering substances. Now two are becoming legal and one remains illegal….while the call for legalizing opiates and all drugs is being prepared.

The drug problem in America is every bit as evil and insidious as one can imagine.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-22   20:51:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin (#12)

The drug problem in America is every bit as evil and insidious as one can imagine.

But, tater, I am making a lot of money investing in legal marijuana farms. Its the old fashioned way for a capitalist such as myself.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-11-22   22:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#13)

I am making a lot of money investing in legal marijuana farms
The use of marijuana is not only harmful to the pot smoker himself….the pothead can also become a risk to society. Scientific research has clearly shown that pot has the potential to cause problems in daily life.

A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the 30 days before being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were seriously diminished. One such study was published in the Hippocampus journal, which found that teenagers who smoked pot every day for three years had “abnormally shaped” hippocampal regions when they reached their early 20s. A study of postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana had 55% more accidents, 85% more injuries and a 75% increase in being absent from work.

In Australia, a study found that cannabis intoxication was responsible for 4.3% of driver fatalities.

Some people will tell you marijuana is not dangerous and investing in marijuana stocks is profitable. Stop and consider who is telling you that and the reason why …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-22   23:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Gatlin (#14)

The use of marijuana is not only harmful to the pot smoker himself….the pothead can also become a risk to society. Scientific research has clearly shown that pot has the potential to cause problems in daily life.

Expressed individual liberties in a free market is the goal. I agree, that it is a requirement to understand personal responsibility for the world around ourselves. Otherwise we cannot learn and grow.

Your continuous attempt to repress individual liberty to choose FREEDOM TO MAKE AND CREATE INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS while simultaneously agreeing to a suppressive government that picks & chooses restraints on individual liberties is a serious flaw in your BS dialog.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-11-23   0:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeroo (#15) (Edited)

Expressed individual liberties in a free market is the goal. I agree, that it is a requirement to understand personal responsibility for the world around ourselves.

Only the gooberment can make decisions for us - just ask Gatlin.

Personal responsibility used to be one of the mainstays of conservatism.

Your continuous attempt to repress individual liberty to choose FREEDOM TO MAKE AND CREATE INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS while simultaneously agreeing to a suppressive government that picks & chooses restraints on individual liberties is a serious flaw in your BS dialog.

Now, being a conservative means you support government interfering in the lives of free individuals because - "the children".

More and more, with each post he makes, the Major sounds like Hillary.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-11-23   5:19:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Deckard (#16)

Cannabis is the most commonly abused drug in the United States. Since 2008, Cannabis use has significantly increased, in part because of legalization for medicinal and recreational use. It’s flagrant use and abuse has resulted in a marijuana associated illness identified as cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome (CHS). CHS is characterized by years of daily Cannabis use, recurrent nausea, vomiting and abdominal pain, compulsive bathing for symptom relief, and symptom resolution with cessation of use.

Marijuana can harm a person’s memory—and this impact can last for days or weeks after the immediate effects of the drug wear off. In one study, a group of heavy marijuana users was asked to recall words from a list. Their ability to correctly remember the words did not return to normal until as long as four weeks after they stopped smoking.39

Students who use marijuana have lower grades and are less likely to get into college than non-smokers. They simply do not have the same abilities to remember and organize information compared to those who do not use these substances.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-23   11:38:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Gatlin (#17)

DickTard loves the sheep living in servitude to a drug... controlled by government ALLOWING recreational legal weed.

An addicted populace needs to be fed while homeless... and we all know how DickTard hates laws against feeding the animals.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-11-23   11:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: GrandIsland (#18)

I simply cannot understand why Deckard wants to promote drug use and addiction. What in his misguided life led to using psychoactive substances and spreading propaganda to entice others to also use these drugs?

The idiot must know that marijuana has proven to be a gateway drug. It should come as no surprise that the vast majority of heroin users have used marijuana not only long before they used heroin but while they are using heroin. Like nearly all people with substance abuse problems, most heroin users initiated their drug use early in their teens, usually beginning with marijuana and alcohol. There is ample evidence that early initiation of drug use primes the brain for enhanced later responses to other drugs….look no further than Deckard for evidence of this.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-23   11:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Gatlin (#19)

I simply cannot understand why Deckard wants to promote drug use and addiction.

For the same reason his counterparts, (D)'s are more pro drug than (R)'s... to cause dependency upon the sheeple.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-11-23   12:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: GrandIsland, gATSLIME (#18)

DickTard loves the sheep living in servitude to a drug...

Do you ever stop lying, either of you two assclowns?

The government does NOT own your body.

Free citizens should have the right to decide for themselves.

A GOVERNMENT THAT HAS THE POWER TO DICTATE WHAT DRUGS YOU MUST NOT TAKE IS A GOVERNMENT THAT HAS THE POWER TO DICTATE WHAT DRUGS YOU MUST TAKE.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-11-23   12:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Gatlin (#19) (Edited)

marijuana has proven to be a gateway drug.

OMG - you're still pushing that discredited bag of malarkey?

Marijuana Is Not, Repeat Not, a Gateway Drug

US Attorney General Finally Admits Weed Isn’t a Gateway Drug — Prescription Pills Are

Marijuana is not a gateway drug. People who have tried marijuana may eventually go on to try harder drugs in search of a stronger high, and experimentation may lead them down a dangerous path toward addiction. However, the science shows overwhelmingly that for most people marijuana is not a gateway drug.

Many people mistakenly believe that marijuana use precedes rather than follows initiation of other illicit drug use. In fact, most drug use begins with alcohol and nicotine before marijuana, making nicotine and alcohol the two most common drugs of abuse.

Evidence indicates marijuana is usually not the first substance abused before more dangerous illicit drug experimentation.

A study published in the peer-reviewed Journal of School Health has concluded that the theory of a gateway drug is not associated with marijuana, but rather one of the most damaging and socially accepted drugs in the world, alcohol. The findings from this investigation support that alcohol should receive primary attention in abuse prevention programming, since the use of other substances could be impacted by delaying or preventing alcohol use.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ending-addiction-good/201408/marijuana-the-gateway-drug-myth

Major Study Destroys Drug War Fear Propaganda – As States Legalize Marijuana, Teen Use Plummets

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-11-23   13:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Deckard (#21)

Free citizens should have the right to decide for themselves.

Not when I have to pay for the SHEEPS addictions via healthcare, prison and welfare debts. There is nothing "free" about addiction. I'm even now paying to keep these filthy shitbags alive with NARCAN... and these very expensive Vivitrol shots you bleeding hearts so love.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-11-23   13:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Deckard (#22)

Major Study Destroys Drug War Fear Propaganda – As States Legalize Marijuana, Teen Use Plummets

Fake news put out by those becoming millionaires by getting kids hooked on marijuana.

Why do you bother to believe such shit …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-23   14:51:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: GrandIsland (#20)

I simply cannot understand why Deckard wants to promote drug use and addiction.

For the same reason his counterparts, (D)'s are more pro drug than (R)'s... to cause dependency upon the sheeple.

That makes sense.

Also, marijuana can change the structure of sperm cells, deforming them. Studies show that the mental functions of people who have smoked a lot of marijuana tend to be diminished. The THC in cannabis disrupts nerve cells in the brain, affecting memory. Cannabis is one of the few drugs that causes abnormal cell division, which leads to severe hereditary defects. A pregnant woman who regularly smokes marijuana or hashish may give birth prematurely to an undersized, underweight baby. Over the last 10 years many children of marijuana users have been born with reduced initiative and lessened abilities to concentrate and pursue life goals. Studies also suggest that prenatal (before birth) use of the drug may result in birth defects, mental abnormalities and increased risk of leukemia (cancer of the bone marrow) in children.

Deckard’s fanatically insane position of continually promoting the use of marijuana could be a “hereditary defect” caused by “prenatal use of marijuana” that resulted in his mental birth defect.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-23   15:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Deckard, GrendIsland (#21)

Free citizens should have the right to decide for themselves.

Free people have the right to decide which laws should be passed….they do not have the right to decide which laws to obey.

People can make decisions on how their government should work. Magna Carta Common Sense: All people must follow the laws, and the laws should be enforced fairly. No one is above the law.

Civilized people live in a social rule system as a way to formally approach different kinds of social rule systems in a unified manner. Our social rules system includes institutions such as norms, laws, regulations, taboos, customs, and a variety of related concepts and are important.

You anarchists rebel against any authority, established order or ruling power. You can never fit into a civilized society where people live under a social rule system in a unified manner.

You are indeed a bunch of sick puppies …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-23   15:23:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Deckard (#22)

Marijuana is not a gateway drug.

Bullshit!

Cannabis is a drug. Research indicates that marijuana use is likely to precede use of other licit and illicit substances and the development of addiction to other substances. A study using longitudinal data from the National Epidemiological Study of Alcohol Use and Related Disorders found that adults who reported marijuana use during the first wave of the survey were more likely than adults who did not use marijuana to develop an alcohol use disorder within 3 years; people who used marijuana and already had an alcohol use disorder at the outset were at greater risk of their alcohol use disorder worsening. Marijuana use is also linked to other substance use disorders including nicotine addiction.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-23   15:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Gatlin (#24)

...getting kids hooked on marijuana.

And the rampant idiocy continues unabated.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-11-23   16:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Gatlin (#27)

Marijuana is not a gateway drug.

Bullshit!

More ill-informed opinion being spewed by the acolyte of Harry Anslinger.

Psychology Today: Science shows overwhelmingly that marijuana is not a gateway drug.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-11-23   16:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: All (#29)

http://www.signature9.com/style/beauty/psychology-today-pulls-asinine-article- on-why-black-women-are-less-physically-attractive-than-other-women

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2017-11-23   16:49:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deckard (#29) (Edited)

Psychology Today: Science shows overwhelmingly that marijuana is not a gateway drug.

More fake news promulgated by the millionaires who are increasing their fortunes at the expense of the youngsters knowing full well that marijuana has proven to be a gateway drug.

It should come as no surprise to anyone that the vast majority of heroin users have used marijuana not only long before they used heroin but while they are using heroin. Like nearly all people with substance abuse problems, most heroin users initiated their drug use early in their teens, usually beginning with marijuana and alcohol. There is ample evidence that early initiation of marijuana use primes the brain for enhanced later responses to other drugs.

The drug lords who work under the mask of legitimacy are dumbing down America by hooking youths on drugs beginning with marijuana as the gateway drug.

You should be ashamed that you are complicit in assisting these drug pins in their mission but then you have demonstrated numerous time that you are not….always shouting DRUGS, DRUGS, DRUGS for everyone who wants them, regardless of the consequences.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-23   18:18:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Deckard (#28)

...getting kids hooked on marijuana.

And the rampant idiocy continues unabated.

Yes it does, unfortunately.

Your millionaire drug lords are the cause of so much suffering and despair. It is their mission in life to feed the habits of those they have caused to become addicted with the uncontrollable cravings for marijuana and illicit drugs. They create new drug habits in those who are not informed about the terrible dangers of the drugs and laugh all the way to the bank. They do it for one reason. They do it solely for the money….misery money, an income from the devastation of lives. They, like you , may see the horrors these drugs cause, but the drug pins push off the guilt when they hold cash in their hands. Your only satisfaction is that you can continue to live in blissful ignorance as lives are ruined forever. Sooner or later though, you need to stop your wayward ways to figured out that you’re helping to kill people….some of whom no doubt are your friends.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-23   18:35:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Deckard (#16)

More and more, with each post he makes, the Major sounds like Hillary.

I have never heard Hillary say that smoking marijuana is dumbing down America as I have and neither have you. She has never said that marijuana is causing American to become more and more dysfunctional….I have. Hillary has never said that it is high time to stop and recognize the Marijuana problem….I continually do that.

So, tell me exactly how I sound like Hillary!

It is high time to conclude that there is now sufficient evidence to warn people of the dangers when using marijuana. ISIS doesn’t need to continue with their effort to destroy America. The millionaire drug pins and those who promote the use of marijuana and other illicit drugs are destroying America for them.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-23   18:54:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Gatlin (#31)

….always shouting DRUGS, DRUGS, DRUGS for everyone who wants them, regardless of the consequences.

Stop lying asshole.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-11-23   21:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Gatlin (#32)

...getting kids hooked on marijuana.

No one gets "hooked" on marijuana. People get hooked on heroin, alcohol, nicotine and painkillers.

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Marijuana is actually LESS addictive than coffee.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-11-23   21:09:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin (#32)

Your millionaire drug lords are the cause of so much suffering and despair.

They create new drug habits in those who are not informed about the terrible dangers of the drugs and laugh all the way to the bank.

They do it for one reason.

They do it solely for the money

Not my drug lords - yours.

How the CIA Turned Us onto LSD and Heroin: Secrets of America's War on Drugs

The CIA, Afghanistan’s Poppy Fields and America’s Growing Heroin Epidemic

CIA Fueling New U.S. Drug Epidemic Using Cheap Afghani Heroin

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-11-23   21:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Gatlin (#31)

Psychology Today: Science shows overwhelmingly that marijuana is not a gateway drug.

More fake news promulgated by the millionaires who are increasing their fortunes at the expense of the youngsters knowing full well that marijuana has proven to be a gateway drug.

Psychology Today is "fake news" and is profiting from marijuana?

Take a look at the ads in there sometime Bubba - you won't see any for reefer.

Like nearly all people with substance abuse problems, most heroin users initiated their drug use early in their teens, usually beginning with marijuana and alcohol.

Actual science, not ill informed opinion has proven otherwise.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-11-23   21:23:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Deckard (#37)

Actual science ...,

We don’t know a great deal about the health effects of using marijuana through “actual science” since there haven’t been any long term controlled studies on it, due to the way marijuana is classified by the federal government.

The Food and Drug Administration still classifies marijuana as a Schedule I drug, defined as the most dangerous of all drug schedules for good reasons, with “no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.” As such, to do clinical research with marijuana, you need a license from the DEA and your study approved by the FDA, and to obtain research-grade marijuana, you have to go through the National Institute on Drug Abuse,

Short term experiments under the supervision of people desperate to support the legalization and use of marijuana and your use of anecdotal personal experiences along with a few biased isolated examples instead of a sound argument or compelling evidence is misleading information.

Quantitative long term scientific measures are almost always more accurate than personal perceptions and experiences, but your inclination is to believe that which is tangible to you and/or the word of someone over a more 'abstract' statistical reality is true evidence of your despotic obsession with marijuana.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-24   3:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Deckard (#36)

Not my drug lords - yours.

Au contrair, mon ami. As the lap dog for the marijuana regime, you are again barking up the wrong tree entirely. It is not I who prays at the altar of cannabis and worships weed…it is you.

Just read about how our fellow reefers worship in the church of cannabis.


igh hopes: members of the congregation in the Church of Cannabis. Photograph: Ryan David Brown.

As the service begins we are encouraged to get to know each other: people spark up joints and pass them around. Long wisps of smoke float to the ceiling and cover the congregation in a flowery shroud; splutterings of coughs and giggles, the sharp intake of breath on all sides. There are about 30 of us in all, a mixed bag of misfits ranging from a self-proclaimed pothead granny, whose eyes appear to move independently of each other, to a couple of Harold & Kumar wannabies taking selfies at the altar. And then there’s Lee: a former Bible quiz champion, raised in a strict evangelical Christian home, he has the credentials of a preacher if not the look: bushy hipster beard and long messy hair, dark bags under his eyes and the whiff of old smoke on his shirt. It feels more like the start of an AA meeting than a spiritual encounter.

You may now shout out….AMEN, reefer brothers and sisters.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-24   3:38:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Deckard (#22)

How the CIA Turned Us onto LSD and Heroin: Secrets of America's War on Drugs
The CIA, Afghanistan’s Poppy Fields and America’s Growing Heroin Epidemic
CIA Fueling New U.S. Drug Epidemic Using Cheap Afghani Heroin

Pure unsupported speculation. Just 3 more of your hilariously ridiculous pieces of promotional marijuana propaganda.

I have seen data that show somewhere between four and nine percent of regular marijuana users are likely to develop dependency problems, and I have learned it’s true that a good number of marijuana users later avail themselves of professional help.

The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) reported that 957,000 people age 12 and over sought treatment for marijuana in 2012

Why do you continue to promote the use of this vile putrid shit….WHY?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-11-24   3:51:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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