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Title: US Boy Scouts revoke badges from Down's syndrome boy
Source: BBC
URL Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43469886
Published: Mar 20, 2018
Author: BBC
Post Date: 2018-03-20 09:57:14 by misterwhite
Keywords: None
Views: 399
Comments: 24

A US father is suing after his son, who has Down's syndrome and autism, was prevented from participating in the Boy Scouts' highest programme.

The local Scout group had previously allowed 15-year-old Logan Blythe to perform modified tasks to gain badges, his father told the Salt Lake Tribune.

But the Boy Scouts of America say that Logan did not fulfil badge requirements and could not progress.

Logan's father, Chad Blythe, is suing the Scouts for a nominal $1.

Logan Blythe had been a Boy Scout for four years and achieved more than 20 badges when his local chapter, the Utah National Parks Council, approved his application to join the Alternative Eagle Scout Programme in November 2017.

The programme aims to accommodate young people with physical or mental disabilities by allowing them to carry out alternative tasks where they are unable to achieve the standard badge.

But the following day, the family received a text message saying that the national body of the Boys Scouts of America had decided that the allowances previously made for Logan's disabilities meant he did not fulfil the programme's criteria.

When the family enquired if there were alternatives to the Eagle programme, they were told that participants "must do the requirements as written, including leadership responsibilities", local station KSL-TV reported.

Logan's father, Chad Blythe, has said that the decision effectively voided all of his son's badges.

In a video uploaded to YouTube, Mr Blythe described the case as "the very definition of discrimination".

The Utah National Parks Council said that while they had supported Logan and his family, the decision belonged to the Boys Scouts of America's national body.

Mr Blythe told KSL-TV that he hoped the lawsuit against both the local and national Boy Scouts bodies would bring about change.

"I cannot support an organisation that does not support my son… or support anyone who doesn't support those with mental disabilities, it's wrong," he said.

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#1. To: misterwhite (#0)

Let him join the Retard Scouts, where they don't need no steenkin' badges.
They'd probably just eat them anyway, like laundry pods.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-03-20   10:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite (#0)

Dumbing down of America!

Crazy people who harm America.

Justified  posted on  2018-03-20   10:15:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#0)

The local Scout group had previously allowed 15-year-old Logan Blythe to perform modified tasks to gain badges,

Correct. The local Scout group allowed him to modify the tasks to fit his abilities in order to qualify for local badges. Which is all well and good at the local level.

But now the father wants to use those badges as proof that his son qualifies to enter the National Eagle Scout program -- and now accuses the Boy Scouts of discrimination for rejecting his son.

The Boy Scouts are very clear on their requirements for an alternative merit badge if that badge is to be used as entry in to the Eagle Scout program -- the task must be pre-approved at the National level.

Guide to Advancement, topic 10.1.0.1–10.1.0.2)

1.Obtain a clear and concise statement related to the nature of the disability from a qualified health-care professional.
2.The unit leader meets with the candidate and his parent or guardian to determine the alternative merit badges to replace those impeding his progression.

3.The unit leader, parent or guardian, and the Scout (if possible) prepare supporting letters to accompany the application.

4.The district and council advancement committees, in turn, review the proposed alternative merit badges. They may choose to speak with the Scout, his parent or guardian, or unit leader. If the council advancement committee approves, then the candidate may start work on the merit badges.

Note: In approving the application, the district and council advancement committees must utilize the expertise of a health-care professional involved with youth who have disabilities.

5.Upon completion of the Eagle Scout rank requirements, using the alternative merit badges, the candidate appears before a board of review. This approved application must be attached to the Eagle Scout Rank Application.

6.Following a successful board of review, the council processes both applications and forwards them to the national Advancement Team.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-20   10:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#3) (Edited)

I have mixed feelings on with the outcome should be. But I will say this. I think the Boy Scouts should try to help out people with disadvantages and accept them so they can be part of the community to maybe with some type of alternative badge

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-20   10:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Justified (#2)

Dumbing down of America!

Yep. He's not doing his son any favors.

No different than the student who graduates high school unable to read or write complaining that the college is guilty of discrimination because he did poorly on the SAT.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-20   10:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#4)

I think the Boy Scouts should try to help out people with disadvantages and accept them...

Well - they already do that with homosexuals and trannies.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-03-20   10:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#4)

I have mixed feelings on with the outcome should be.

I don't. The Boy Scouts should cease to exist. Once they went gung-ho on the gays, they ceased to be an organization that I support. They chose their side in the culture wars. They chose wrong. I no longer support the organization and would like to see it destroyed.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   11:01:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#4) (Edited)

I think the Boy Scouts should try to help out people with disadvantages and accept them so they can be part of the community to maybe with some type of alternative badge

That's what the article left out -- the Boy Scouts DO have an alternative badge for those with disabilities. But the activity to earn that alternative merit badge has to be approved by the Boy Scout council if that merit badge is to be used to qualify for Eagle Scout.

If the merit badge is not to be used for that purpose, the local scout group can modify the requirements any way they want.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-20   11:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

I don't. The Boy Scouts should cease to exist. Once they went gung-ho on the gays, they ceased to be an organization that I support. They chose their side in the culture wars. They chose wrong. I no longer support the organization and would like to see it destroyed.

I kind of feel the way you do. But when I go to Kroger and the boyscouts are selling popcorn. I buy it. They are just kids learning and developing. They are not part of what made the boy scouts go faggot. I think most people in the Boy Scouts still support traditional values.

I thought about telling the boy scouts that I cannot support them anymore because they have faggots now. But I really couldn't say that to some kid. I was a cub scout when I was a kid.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-20   11:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#0)

Logan's father, Chad Blythe, has said that the decision effectively voided all of his son's badges.

That's life. Deal with it.

Nobody can do everything.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-20   11:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#4)

I have mixed feelings on with the outcome should be. But I will say this. I think the Boy Scouts should try to help out people with disadvantages and accept them so they can be part of the community to maybe with some type of alternative badge

Stone,you KNOW in your heart any such badge would be known as "the retard badge" regardless of what official title it was given.

Who do you know that would want a "retard badge"?

The BSA can and do allow handicapped boys to join and participate in scouting activities they can do safely,but anyone who is truly handicapped either physically or mentally will never be able to fully participate. Life is what it is.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-20   11:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

don't. The Boy Scouts should cease to exist. Once they went gung-ho on the gays, they ceased to be an organization that I support. They chose their side in the culture wars. They chose wrong. I no longer support the organization and would like to see it destroyed.

I guess this means you no longer support the Catholic Church,and want to see it destroyed?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-20   11:15:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#9)

Yeh. I still buy their cookies, etc. And I buy gasoline even though the oil comes from Venezuela.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   11:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#12)

I guess this means you no longer support the Catholic Church,and want to see it destroyed?

Catholic Church hasn't gone gay, hoss.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   11:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Vicomte13 (#14)

Catholic Church hasn't gone gay, hoss.

There have many homo scandals. There are also many catholic bishops claiming its virtues. The pope does nothing about it. So yes the Catholic Church does have a gay problem. There have been dozens or hundreds of catholic churches that have embraced homosexuality. Again without condemnation or any action taken by the Pope.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-20   11:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Vicomte13 (#14) (Edited)

Catholic Church hasn't gone gay, hoss.

In which solar system is this true? SOB's have been homosexual pedophiles ever since Day 1.

Not all of them,mind you. MAYBE not even a majority,but the ones who aren't cover for the ones who are in order to protect the church,so that makes them accomplices.

BTW,I am a Heathen according to a couple of Priests I have met,but if I ever catch ANYONE,including any of my relatives, sexually molesting a child,their child or anyone else's child,they will be damn lucky to still be living and in one piece when the cops show up to handcuff and carry them away. If that means I get arrested too,so be it.

There MUST be at least ONE place where everyone will take a moral stand and make the statement "This will NOT be acceptable here on this day or any other day as long as I am alive and mobile,period,end of discussion!" That one is one of mine that I feel the most strongly about. Any civilization that can't be bothered to protect children has no right to claim they are a civilization.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-20   14:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)

There have many homo scandals. There are also many catholic bishops claiming its virtues. The pope does nothing about it.

NO Pope has ever done anything about it but join in.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-20   14:51:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#15)

There have many homo scandals. There are also many catholic bishops claiming its virtues. The pope does nothing about it. So yes the Catholic Church does have a gay problem. There have been dozens or hundreds of catholic churches that have embraced homosexuality. Again without condemnation or any action taken by the Pope.

Yes. There have been. And there has been coverup, and lack of accountability, and predation. And it's all utterly disgusting and, to my mind, means that it is time to end the rule of priestly "celibacy" and embrace a married priesthood, such as we have in the other 21 of the 22 Catholic rites. There will always be pedophiles. We don't need pedophilia to be a byword for the Catholic priesthood, and we don't have to constantly be in the position of protecting the Church because we have so few priests. There are plenty of heterosexual Catholic men who would welcome the opportunity to be priests. There's a whole diaconate who could be elevated to that role. Nor is there any good reason to not call nuns what they really are: deaconesses.

Catholics respect tradition, and that's good. But sometimes traditions create actual moral problems, and that's bad - really bad. Priestly celibacy has done so in the modern age. Unfortunately, I don't think that the Church is ready to change that yet, so we will continue to have these problems for many years to come. Eventually the Church will correct itself in this regard, or it will wither.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   16:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#17)

That's not true! John Paul II did quite a bit, but by the time the scandal broke and he was confronted with the magnitude of the problem, he was a very old man bent over with illness. He lacked the vigor to fight the evil elements alone, and he had too few allies willing to help. To say that no Pope did anything but join in is a calumny against a good man. He certainly did not join in! And he certainly did what he could, but he died before he could win, and he had too few allies.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   16:43:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Vicomte13 (#19)

I really liked pope John Paul. Maybe the best pope ever. Not that I would know much about other Pope's.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-20   16:46:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)

I really liked pope John Paul. Maybe the best pope ever.

Me too. Certainly the best of my lifetime. Historically, I'm more aware of the unbelievably crappy and corrupt ones - there weren't many, but they were spectacularly bad - than of the truly great. Most were about as interesting as any of those long lists of forgotten kings and presidents of any country. There are always more Millard Fillmores than Ronald Reagans.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   17:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Vicomte13 (#19) (Edited)

That's not true! John Paul II did quite a bit, but by the time the scandal broke and he was confronted with the magnitude of the problem, he was a very old man bent over with illness. He lacked the vigor to fight the evil elements alone, and he had too few allies willing to help.

IOW,he didn't do squat and you are making excuses for him.

You come much closer to the truth when you say he had few allies. He had few allies because so many priests are horndogs and/or child rapists,and the Church can't afford to dump them because they have nobody to replace them. The Church itself might be in financial trouble if they were to lose all those revenue sources.

I have to cut you some slack on this,though. You were indoctrinated/brainwashed into this cult when you were a child,and it's almost impossible for most people to completely rid themselves of their childhood programming. You are going to defend the priests because you see this as defending the Holy Mother Church.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-20   19:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#22)

He did more than squat. Example: I have long sung in the choir. One of the things that JPII instituted was a real check of the church staff, clergy and laypeople, even volunteers. If you wanted to be in one of the ministries that had anything to do with children, you had to go through a police background check.

Also, JPII ordered the records combed, and had priests who had molested people forced into retirement.

But as I said before, he was a very old and sick man, and it was his rage at these crimes that pushed things as far as they did go. He needed allies: Cardinals, Bishops, Priests - to back him up and carry forward the reforms, and they didn't. They did what he ordered, but his range of vision was only what was put before him, and he was bent double with Parkinsons and mostly blind, so his actual ability to function was limited to a few hours a day.

He did more than squat, but the institution was much bigger and stronger than him.

The Church needs to change the celibacy rule and bring married priests back into the ranks, where they have been absent since the 1000s. Yes, problems come with that, but the current celibacy rule long outlived its usefulness, and now it hangs like an albatross around our necks. We don't have enough priests to serve, parishes are closed. Young, vibrant priests with families could effect a revival. But conservatism is a tough thing to move aside.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   19:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Vicomte13 (#23)

He did more than squat, but the institution was much bigger and stronger than him.

The institution is bigger and stronger than any of us. That's why people create institutions.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-20   20:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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