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Title: Interview With Boy In ‘Chemical Attack’ Video: ‘We Didn’t See Any Chemical Attack Symptoms’
Source: SHTF
URL Source: http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-ne ... mical-attack-symptoms_04192018
Published: Apr 21, 2018
Author: Mac Slavo
Post Date: 2018-04-21 10:08:29 by IbJensen
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Views: 161
Comments: 17

A new interview with the now infamous boy in the alleged chemical attack video used as a justification for the United States-led bombing of Syria is adding more doubt to the official narrative. The boy says he was told to go to the hospital where people started dousing him with water.

One of the main “characters” in the footage at the hospital is a water-soaked boy, who is seen being sprayed with water by people who claim to be “rescue workers.” It’s not clear whether they are doctors from the hospital, human rights activists, or White Helmets members. The latter usually make such videos and send them to news agencies, including Reuters.

In what could be the biggest fabrication in recent months, the Douma boy in the chemical attack video and his family have spoken about their ordeal to a Russian TV crew. It sure appears that the chemical attack was “staged suffering” by the White Helmets. The boy said that he was asked to go to the hospital, where people “grabbed” him and started “pouring water” over his head for no apparent reason.

Panic, fear, screaming adults, and frightened children featured in the purported footage of the aftermath following the alleged chemical attack in the Eastern Ghouta city. The video has been widely circulated by the mainstream media since April 7 after being posted by the so-called Douma Revolution group and “evidence” of the aftermath of the alleged attack.

A Russian broadcaster VGTRK said it found the boy in the video, who appeared to be 11-year-old Hassan Diab. His story differed from the one presented by the activists and later propagated by the mainstream media.

Hassan said he was in the basement with his mother, who said they ran out of food when they heard some noise outside. When they went outside, they heard random shouting that they should go to the hospital, so they did. “Somebody was shouting that we had to go to the hospital, so we went there. When I came in, some people grabbed me and started pouring water over my head,” he told Evgeny Poddubny, a war correspondent from Russian broadcaster VGTRK. Hassan confirmed that he was the boy in the video, and was very scared when the whole situation unfolded. He is now fine and shows no symptoms of having experienced a chemical attack two weeks ago.

In an Instagram post, Poddubny claimed that 11-year-old Hassan got some much-needed food in exchange for his participation in the staged video. Hassan’s father’s story corroborates his son’s. The boy was eventually found by his father, who said he didn’t hear about any chemical attack that day. “I went to the hospital, walked upstairs, and found my wife and children. I asked them what had happened, and they said people outside were shouting about some smell and told them to go to the hospital. At the hospital, they gave dates and cookies to the kids,” he said.

One of the medical workers, who was reportedly on shift at the time, said he was surprised by the sudden influx. “Some people came here and washed people. They said: ‘Chemical attack. Chemical attack.’ We didn’t see any chemical attack symptoms,” he added. He did, however, say that there were many people with respiratory problems as a result of dust from recent bombings in the city. British war journalist Robert Fisk also noted that that was the story he’d gotten when speaking with a doctor from Douma.

More importantly, The Independent‘s famous war journalist Robert Fisk haspublished a report which affirms the story so many western government lapdogs have been dismissing as Kremlin propaganda for days now. After interviewing a doctor from the hospital of the area where the Douma attack was supposed to have occurred, Fisk was told by Dr. Assim Rahaibani that what was in actuality an outbreak of respiratory distress among occupants of a dusty oxygen-deprived tunnel was made to look like the aftereffects of a chemical weapons attack when a member of the White Helmets started shouting about a gas attack in front of a bunch of video cameras. Everyone panicked and started hosing themselves down, but in the video, according to Rahaibani, “what you see are people suffering from hypoxia — not gas poisoning.”

Moscow is planning to show the video about Hassan’s experience at the next meeting of the United Nations Security Council, Russia’s UN envoy Vassily Nebenzia told Rossiya 1 on Thursday.

The U.S, the U.K., and France launched a coordinated attack on Syria using the video young Hassan says was staged as justification. Also damming for the West was that the timing of the strikes. The announcement of the attack on Syria came hours before the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) team was scheduled to arrive in Douma to determine whether chemical weapons had been used there. It appears that the West was all too eager to destroy evidence, or lack thereof, of alleged chemical weapons use.


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Curses! Foiled again! Just like bombing Iraq and hanging Saddam who was the stabilizing force in the middle east!

AL ASSAD did not gas his people and everything else the fake media is filling our heads with is bullshit.

For the truth about Syria watch the Canadian journalist EVA BARTLETT who was the only reporter actually in Syria unlike the BBC who just repeat the scripted lies. It’s all about picking Sunni or Shia governments and the USA and gang went with the Saudis-Sunni-Wahhabi version of Islam believing they would be easier to control. What it’s going to cost us will be dearly especially because they keep up the ruse that the friendly Sunnis are the good Muzzies and our borders are open to all, even undocumented fighting age males. we don’t take in the Christians who are the ones actually being slaughtered or taken as sex slaves.

This should wake us all up but I guess the CNNs have us all brainwashed while in Europe they are already paying with their children’s blood because of this evil plot that saw all borders left wide open. Could it be that the elites think it’s a great idea having hundreds of millions of fighting age Muslims no longer on their door step? Perhaps they’re also hoping that the rest of the world gets a taste of just how evil and sick Muslims and their war manual the Quran really are! (1 image)

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#1. To: IbJensen (#0)

A new interview with the now infamous boy in the alleged chemical attack video used as a justification for the United States-led bombing of Syria is adding more doubt to the official narrative. The boy says he was told to go to the hospital where people started dousing him with water.

Certainly this boy is a Russian super agent who managed to infiltrate the video-clip.

A Pole  posted on  2018-04-21   10:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: IbJensen (#0) (Edited)

What kind of "proof" is that? If there WAS a chemical attack nearby, wouldn't the boy be instructed to go to the hospital to be washed off and checked for symptoms? Then given dates and cookies afterwards as a treat?

By the way, I wouldn't describe dates and cookies as "much-needed food".

misterwhite  posted on  2018-04-21   10:59:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#2)

Well, let's see. If there WAS a chemical attack nearby, wouldn't the boy be instructed to go to the hospital to be washed off and checked for symptoms? Then given dates and cookies afterwards as a treat?

Here is an RT news report where they interview the kid.

It seems apparent that given his apparent normal health, if he was exposed to chemical weapons that he's made a remarkable recovery.

But sure, maybe he wasn't exposed, and the treatment he got was precautionary. It doesn't mean there was no chem weapon discharge. Maybe there was and he was one of the lucky ones.

But in that whole video of the hospital scene, is there any single person shown that shows signs of chem weapon exposure? I don't see any. Has there been any video showing any person at all suffering any chem exposure symptoms or having died from chem exposure? Again, I haven't seen any. The hospital scene could have been staged, or it could have been a precautionary response to a real attack, or it could have been a hysteria response to a feared chem attack that never occurred at all. Those are pretty much the choices, and I think it was the last of these.

The western public has responded ONLY to the hospital scene where treatment was administered to kids with water, inhalers and eye drops even though no one in it showed any symptoms at all. That leaves no evidence of any chem attack.

In the RT clip I posted they show what is claimed to be a chem weapon projectile or bomb. To me, it looks like a propane tank, complete with the circular metal at one end which looks exactly like it's designed to allow the unit to stand upright. The metal brace on it is quite crude and even rusted, which looks far more made and used to prevent theft of the tank than to facilitate attachment to the undercarriage of a relatively modern military jet fighter/bomber. The width is right and the shape is consistent with use to store high pressure propane or natural gas. In countries where natural gas is not piped as is normal in the USA, gas is instead delivered by tanks.

Naturally, proving a negative that the gas attack did not occur cannot be done. The burden is instead to prove that it did occur, and it's not been proven at all. And the lack of strategic motive for Assad to do this makes it all the more doubtful.

I personally do not believe that Assad ordered any gas attack, and if there was one, I would suspect the rebels before I'd suspect Assad. I think Trump committed a grave error in attacking Syria as it punished them for something they in all likelihood did not do.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-04-21   11:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pinguinite (#3)

I personally do not believe that Assad ordered any gas attack, and if there was one, I would suspect the rebels before I'd suspect Assad.

If there wasn't a gas attack, wouldn't Russia and the Syrians and the rebels eagerly allow any and all inspectors to come into the area and take all the samples they wanted?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-04-21   14:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite (#3)

"To me, it looks like a propane tank ..."

Well, poison gas has to be stored in some type of container. Why not an empty propane tank?

Better than some tank marked "Caution. Poison Gas".

misterwhite  posted on  2018-04-21   14:13:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#4)

If there wasn't a gas attack, wouldn't Russia and the Syrians and the rebels eagerly allow any and all inspectors to come into the area and take all the samples they wanted?

I would expect so. They've been publicly invited by both Russia and Assad. In the clip I posted the Russians claimed that they came under small arms fire so full access still wasn't safe for a certain period of time. Western MSM is claiming it's a fake delay tactic to clean up all the evidence.

You may choose who to disbelieve, but the kid interviewed, at least, is apparently unharmed, whatever the circumstances truly were. I would expect any chem weapon agent discharge to leave detectable residue in spite of the best cleanup efforts.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-04-21   14:22:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#5)

Well, poison gas has to be stored in some type of container. Why not an empty propane tank?

It does indeed need a container. The disadvantage with propane tanks is weight. They are made of steel and are very heavy, especially these larger ones, so shooting them out of a howitzer or attaching to a rocket is problematic. About the only option would be an air drop, but if that's the case, the steel brace shown in the vid I posted above is pretty dang crude for suspension under a modern jet fighter/bomber. It's also a bit rusty which says something about it's history.

What might work much better are those blue, 5-gallon water bottles. They are light and can hold plenty of fluid. I don't even know if Sarin or chlorine would need a pressurized container at all anyway.

Here's a video of some guys who are doing it right. Firing chem weapons needs to be done with the utmost safety in mind. I don't know if the blue containers are 5-gallon water jugs or not. Maybe not. What do you think?

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-04-21   14:37:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite (#7)

What might work much better are those blue, 5-gallon water bottles. They are light and can hold plenty of fluid. I don't even know if Sarin or chlorine would need a pressurized container at all anyway.

5 gallons? One pint of sarin would be more than enough

A Pole  posted on  2018-04-21   15:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: IbJensen (#0)

If it's a Moo (pigpiss be upon them) saying it, assume it's taqiyya.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-04-21   15:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A Pole (#8)

5 gallons? One pint of sarin would be more than enough

I've no idea but if that's so, then that's another strike against the supposed delivery tank in the first vid I posted. It could be about a 30 gallon tank, which would be 240 pints.

I watched a video on Sarin. According to it, chem weapon artillery shells have 2 compartments with 2 different chemicals in it. Upon firing and spinning due to normal rifling in the guns, the barrier breaks and the chems mix in flight which produces sarin before impact.

If true, a pressurized container such as a propane tank isn't required for storage or delivery.

Maybe the guys shooting off the 5 gallon jugs were just delivering water.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-04-21   15:34:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A Pole (#8)

5 gallons? One pint of sarin would be more than enough

You have to disperse it over an area in a fine mist for it to be effective at seriously injuring or killing any decent number of civilians.

You need to have your sarin in an explosive shell or have a sprayer plane or similar.

It does seem that the reports are of chlorine gas being used, not sarin. And chlorine can come from a lot of places in industry or from water treatment plants (e.g. Hazmat teams called to chlorine leak at PA water treatment plant, 1/2018), even in a wrecked country like Syria.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-04-21   16:16:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tooconservative (#11)

You need to have your sarin in an explosive shell or have a sprayer plane or similar.

In an artillery shell, I don't think it needs any explosive as the impact speed would probably be plenty of energy.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-04-21   16:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Pinguinite (#3)

It appears that this is another internationally fabricated Iraq scenario.

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2018-04-21   19:22:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A Pole (#1)

America's 'intelligence' is stupid beyond comprehension.

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2018-04-21   19:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Pinguinite, redleghunter (#12)

In an artillery shell, I don't think it needs any explosive as the impact speed would probably be plenty of energy.

He's a little young to have any experience with America's own M687 sarin artillery shells (designed 1976, manufactured from 1987-1989) but we do have someone here who probably knows the facts about it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-04-22   0:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#15)

Most are base ejecting projectiles with a timed fuze allowing for an adjusted height of burst.

The rest not at liberty to discuss.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-04-23   1:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: redleghunter, Pinguinite (#16)

The rest not at liberty to discuss.

So you're just old enough to know stuff about them. Thanks for the input.

Sarin is heavier than air, settles into low-lying areas fairly quickly, dissipates in a few hours (faster under certain weather conditions, especially rain). So a sarin attack has to blanket an area effectively and really contaminate it thoroughly because it won't last that long. Ideally, if the temperature and weather is right, you create a cloud that moves across the ground, incapacitating large numbers.

I read an article about how difficult it is to use chemical weapons like sarin effectively in practice, how dangerous it is to fill the shells just prior to firing, etc. You can see why the military doesn't like them. A pain all round, not so reliable, too easily affected by weather, dangerous to your own crews, etc.

It always seemed to me to be a weapon you use on very high value targets, like a regional HQ or communications center or vital supply/fuel depots. Or to attack enemy morale by forcing them to fight in chem suits and to make them worry about touching anything that might be contaminated. Using them against an advancing army (like Soviet tanks and BMPs and troops advancing through the old Fulda Gap) would be more problematic because you need to blanket a large area with dozens of guns quickly firing several shells to catch them before they can don their chem suits. It's hard to catch them with their pants down unless you have a lot of big guns ready to fire a big barrage to create that deadly ground cloud in sufficient density and make it happen over a large area before they can get masks and suits on.

It just isn't a weapon with the kind of reliability and effectiveness that our military wants. It never was.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-04-23   2:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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