[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

China bites the dust (in 2020)

World Health Organization official slams Donald Trump’s ‘incoherent’ coronavirus response despite low number of US cases

National Debt Is $122 Trillion, Not $23 Trillion, Says Non-profit Group

Marxist Bernie Sanders Promotes Cuban Health Care – Filthy Institutions Not Even Pigs Would Enter –WITH PHOTOS

American Independent Party Submits List of Presidential Primary Candidates (including President Trump)

Ozzy Osbourne - Goodbye

Submission Training Begins Early

Read Matt Bracken Books Bleeding-edge dystopian thrillers, for readers who are tired of politically-correct fiction.

“Understanding the Corona Virus Hoax”

U.S. Marines Raised American Flag During Battle for Iwo Jima on This Day in 1945

'I'll fight them to the death': Judge Judy warns Bernie Bros that they don't have a chance at the presidency because she's ready to battle to get Mike Bloomberg in the White House

Sanders: Illegal Immigrants Are ‘Entitled’ to the Same Government Benefits as Citizens

Latest Polling Is Terrible News for Michael Bloomberg’s Chances of Taking Down Bernie

What happened to Sneakypete ?

Trump Boat Trolls Bernie Sanders Vallejo Rally

Why Bernie Sanders is just the beginning of an American turn to the left (BARF)

Clint Eastwood supported Trump in 2016 and now supports Bloomberg

Celebrate The 40-Year Anniversary Of The Miracle On Ice

This is the crowd not able to get in to TrumpÂ’s rallyÂ… In Blue State NevadaÂ…

Bloomberg Loses Ground Following Debate Debut in Las Vegas

Pick your Socialist President 2020

Here's a List of All the Stuff 'Nanny' Bloomberg Has Tried to Ban

Voter Data From Trump's Arizona Rally Should Scare The Hell Out Of Democrats

Shocking Video Shows Cop Execute Unarmed Grandpa for Walking Toward Him

A Michigan Police Task Force Is Playing Jurisdiction Games To Avoid Compensating an Innocent Man Cops Put in the Hospital

What is the 'boogaloo?' How online calls for a violent uprising are hitting the mainstream

Dealing with AGWs?

Movie Review: Vanishing Point (1971) : A libertarian perspective

Federal Judges Meeting Will Target Trump And Barr, Report Says

NSC adviser 'is to be reassigned' amid DC rumors SHE is the infamous 'Anonymous' behind anti-Trump NYTimes op-ed and book 'A Warning'

Off-Duty Cop Follows Woman Through Parking Lot, Attacks Her—Taxpayers Shell Out $125K

New Witness Corroborates Accusation That Mike Bloomberg Told Pregnant Employee to 'Kill It'

Cops Stop Veteran with PTSD for No Reason, Savagely Taser and Hit Him Over 30 Times

The Student Debt You Willingly Took On Is Not My Problem To Solve

Virginia: Gun Ban Bill Defeated!

Democrats fear Republican sabotage in key Senate race

Trump Supporters Are George W Bush Supporters LARPing As Ron Paul Supporters

US closes case against ex-FBI boss McCabe with no charges

Pelosi: A.G. Barr 'has deeply damaged the rule of law'

More Victims Discovered After Cop Caught on Video Planting Meth on Innocent People

PasTor Who Prophesized 4 Years Ago ... AbouT Kanye WesT’s ChrisTian Conversion Makes PredicTion --- AbouT PresidenT Trump’s Chances Of Re-elecTion

Senate Democrats queasy over Sanders as nomin

John Kelly Finally Lets Loose on Trump

Thursday, February 13, 2020 Trump breaks New Hampshire record for voter turnout for any incumbent president

Instrumental 9 year old guitarist Taj Farrant plays Chris Stapleton "Tennessee Whiskey" on his Gibson SG and Elixir strings Marshall amp

The Ten Most Destructive Americans of Eight Decades

Nancy Pelosi’s Staff Demands Takedown of ‘Deceptively Altered’ Video of Her SOTU Tantrum

OKC - A Conspiracy Theory

#FlashbackFriday when Vindman perjured himself and @RepBradWenstrup caught him.

Biden Calls Skeptical New Hampshire Voter ‘a Lying, Dog-Faced Pony Soldier’ (The dust-up came after the voter asked whether he can rebound from Iowa)


Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

International News
See other International News Articles

Title: With the Saudis, Trump Shows Timidity
Source: Reason
URL Source: https://reason.com/archives/2018/10 ... he-saudis-trump-shows-timidity
Published: Oct 15, 2018
Author: Steve Chapman
Post Date: 2018-10-15 10:00:44 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 258
Comments: 7

If a foreign journalist living in America and writing about the Iranian government's noxious policies were murdered by agents of Tehran, the president of the United States would take it as evidence of the need for tough action. Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi, however, was a Saudi writing about the Saudi government, which is a U.S. ally.

After Khashoggi disappeared while visiting Riyadh's consulate in Istanbul, Donald Trump was a portrait in timidity. "We want to find out what happened," he bleated more than a week later. "He went in, and it doesn't look like he came out." What happened is pretty clear. Since Khashoggi entered the building October 2, he has not been seen or heard from.

The evidence is that his disappearance was no random event. "The crown prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman, ordered an operation to lure Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi back to Saudi Arabia from his home in Virginia and then detain him, according to U.S. intelligence intercepts of Saudi officials discussing the plan," reported The Washington Post. The Turks have told U.S. officials they have audio and video recordings of Khashoggi being tortured and killed inside the consulate.

Trump responded with the limp evasions he reserves for tyrants who have seduced him. "We don't like it, and we don't like it even a little bit," he ventured. If it turns out that the Riyadh regime murdered Khashoggi, he said, "it would be a very sad thing." But he also proclaimed that our relationship with the Saudi government is "excellent."

No doubt. Trump is not about to let a trifle like the premeditated murder of a journalist who had applied for permanent residence in the United States get in the way of his own priorities. The president intimated that those in favor of cutting off weapons sales to Saudi Arabia—a group that includes members of Congress from both parties—fail to grasp the value of those shipments.

"We have a country that's doing probably better economically than it's ever done before," he asserted with his usual inattention to factual accuracy. "Part of that is what we're doing with our defense systems and everybody's wanting them, and frankly, I think that that would be a very, very tough pill to swallow for our country."

Leave aside for the moment Trump's heartfelt conviction that we should indulge assassins as long as they are loyal customers. He also managed to showcase his bottomless store of ignorance and deceit.

The supposed arms deal he reached with the Saudis last year amounted to $110 billion. But as Brookings Institution analyst Bruce Riedel points out, the announced agreement "was fake news then and it's still fake news today. The Saudis have not concluded a single major arms deal with Washington on Trump's watch." The transaction was aspirational, not actual.

Even if the vapor of Trump's claims were to solidify, his deal would stretch over 10 years, making it worth an average of $11 billion annually. That is a huge amount for a military contractor's bottom line but a tiny amount for a $20 trillion economy such as ours.

It's less, in fact, than the amount Trump plans to pay out to American farmers who have suffered from his trade war with China. It's far less than the cost of his threatened tariffs to our economy —a "tough pill" he has been eager to force down our throats.

We might also want to count a notable cost that is easy to ignore because it falls on innocent people far away. A U.N. report in August concluded that the Saudi-led coalition fighting in Yemen has killed thousands of civilians, citing airstrikes that "have hit residential areas, markets, funerals, weddings, detention facilities, civilian boats and even medical facilities." Such attacks, the panel found, "may amount to war crimes."

Much of the weaponry used by the Saudis comes from the United States. Trump could blame Barack Obama for many of those shipments. Instead, Trump lifted one of the few curbs imposed on the Saudis, letting them buy "smart bomb" components that Obama had blocked.

What have we learned about Trump from his handling of the apparent hit job on Khashoggi? That he is amoral, mendacious, weak, and deaf to matters of humanity. Those are qualities we have seen in him many times before. But sometimes, he exhibits them in a way that retains the power to shock.

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

#1. To: Deckard (#0)

I thought we were suppose to stay out of this shit but now you want us to get involved?

What the hell which way do you want it???????????????????????????

Make up your mind! Do we get involved or not? You can not have it both ways!!

Justified  posted on  2018-10-15   10:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

What happened is pretty clear. Since Khashoggi entered the building October 2, he has not been seen or heard from.

Yep. That part is pretty clear.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-10-15   10:32:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#0)

Oh hell another non-reason story.

How about we not sell products and food too while we are not selling military weapons? Truth is someone is going to sell them military weapons so why should we not sell our old stuff to them?

Justified  posted on  2018-10-15   10:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Justified (#1)

Khashoggi is (was) a Saudi journalist who wrote newspaper articles critical of the Saudi government, Saudi Arabia's crown prince, Mohammad bin Salman, and the country's king, Salman of Saudi Arabia. He wasn't welcome there and fled the country last year.

If the Saudi's had him killed, why is that America's concern? Sure, we can go on record as saying we condemn that kind of thing, but that's all we need to do.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-10-15   10:45:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#4)

My problem is the double standard or the you can't win scenario. If we act we are sticking our nose into other peoples business and if we don't act we are cowards.

This is my only issue. Im really sick of the ME and moslems.

Justified  posted on  2018-10-15   10:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Justified (#5)

Where do we draw the line? What if some other country kills one of it's journalists -- like Algeria or the Congo? Iran or Turkey? Bosnia or Serbia?

Let the UN handle it.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-10-15   11:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#0)

Pragmatism, not timidity.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-10-15   17:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

Please report web page problems, questions and comments to webmaster@libertysflame.com