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Title: Black security guard killed by police while he was stopping a bar shooting
Source: Blacklisted News/Russia Today
URL Source: https://www.blacklistednews.com/art ... lice-while-stopping-a-bar.html
Published: Nov 13, 2018
Author: RT
Post Date: 2018-11-13 09:41:56 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 194
Comments: 7

Responding to reports of a bar shooting, police in a southern suburb of Chicago shot and killed the heroic security guard as he was subduing the gunman. Local residents say the killer cops are unlikely to be punished.

Jemel Roberson, 26, was shot dead by Midlothian police officers after they mistook him for the suspect in a shooting call. The victim turned out to be a security guard at the bar where the incident took place - and had been in the process of restraining the perpetrator when police officers shot and killed him.

Local residents told the media that Roberson hoped to one day become a police officer. Now he is the latest case in a long string of police shootings of African-American men.

Officers were responding to a report of a shooting at Manny’s Blue Room Bar in Robbins, Illinois, a short distance south of Chicago. After the establishment asked a group of drunken men to leave the bar around 4am on Sunday, one of the men then returned to the bar and began to open fire, trading shots with security, according to witnesses at the scene. Upon arriving, police then shot and killed Roberson, who had been pointing his gun at a suspect he had pinned down and detained.

"Everybody was screaming out, 'Security!' He was a security guard," witness Adam Harris told WGN-TV, suggesting the decision to use deadly force had a racial motivation. "And they still did their job, and saw a black man with a gun, and basically killed him."

Roberson had a valid Illinois firearm owners identification card, as required by state law. His family has already filed a wrongful death lawsuit, AP reported.

"A Midlothian officer encountered a subject with a gun and was involved in an officer-involved shooting,” Chief Daniel Delaney said in a statement. “The subject the officer shot was later pronounced deceased at an area hospital.

The “State Police Public Integrity Task Force” is investigating the incident to determine if the police involved acted criminally. However, a recent investigation of 113 police shootings in Cook county since 2005, by WBEZ radio and the Better Government Association, noted that not a single one resulted in disciplinary action against the officer involved, likely due to potential costs to the state, as well as fraternal feelings between investigators and the officers being investigated.

While many of the fatal shootings involved police responding appropriately to actually dangerous situations, the probe highlights the serious and consistent failure of oversight in police killings in the Illinois county that includes Chicago.

Some Illinois residents have taken issue with police investigating themselves in criminal cases, and are pushing the state to adopt elected police accountability boards. After tireless effort by activists and numerous scandals, former Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel even promised such a board, but his hastily drafted version of the initiative was shot down by the city council.

Every city in the US where Black people live has the same crisis of police accountability. Until Black people have the power to determine who polices them and how they are policed, cops will brutalize, torture and murder us with impunity”, Frank Chapman of the Chicago Alliance Against Racist and Political Repression told RT.

Chapman is a leading figure in the effort to adopt a civilian police-crime control board in Chicago, the first city where such legislation was considered. The group, who is in contact with the family of the slain security guard, are gathering supporters to organize a response the incident.

There have been 840 police killings so far this year, according to data collected by the Washington Post, putting the US at the highest number of killings by law enforcement in the world with no close second. According to FBI data cited by Vox, while African-Americans make up only 13 percent of the US population, they represent 31 percent of all people killed by police.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Black security guard killed by police while he was stopping a bar shooting

Black security guard, IN UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF A GUN, killed by police while he was THREATENING ANOTHER PERSON WITH THE UNLAWFULLY POSSESSED GUN.

There, fixed it.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-11-13   10:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

"Everybody was screaming out, 'Security!' He was a security guard,"

I think I see the problem. The time to yell "He's a security guard" is BEFORE the cops open fire.

Telling the cops afterwards that he WAS a security guard helps no one. Especially the security guard.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-13   10:57:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nolu chan (#1)

Black security guard, IN UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF A GUN,

Hmmm. According to the article, "Roberson had a valid Illinois firearm owners identification card, as required by state law". Do you know something the rest of us don't?

Now it's possible he didn't have a concealed carry permit, but he was hired as a security guard. You'd think he'd have one.

Also, the article said, "Roberson hoped to one day become a police officer". Meaning he wasn't a convicted felon, unable to own a firearm.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-13   11:04:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#3)

Hmmm. According to the article, "Roberson had a valid Illinois firearm owners identification card, as required by state law". Do you know something the rest of us don't?

I know not to believe deceptive yellow journalism intended to deceive -- in this case, the irrelevant citation to a valid Illinois firearm owners ID card. In a bar, it does not mean a thing. A bar is a prohibited area.

www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=3497&ChapterID=39

(430 ILCS 66/65)

Sec. 65. Prohibited areas.

(a) A licensee under this Act shall not knowingly carry a firearm on or into:

[...]

(9) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of an establishment that serves alcohol on its premises, if more than 50% of the establishment's gross receipts within the prior 3 months is from the sale of alcohol. The owner of an establishment who knowingly fails to prohibit concealed firearms on its premises as provided in this paragraph or who knowingly makes a false statement or record to avoid the prohibition on concealed firearms under this paragraph is subject to the penalty under subsection (c-5) of Section 10-1 of the Liquor Control Act of 1934.

(10) Any public gathering or special event conducted on property open to the public that requires the issuance of a permit from the unit of local government, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through a public gathering in order to access his or her residence, place of business, or vehicle.

[...]

(Source: P.A. 98-63, eff. 7-9-13; 99-29, eff. 7-10-15.)

https://codes.findlaw.com/il/chapter-235-liquor/il-st-sect-235-5-10-1.html

(c-5) Any owner of an establishment that serves alcohol on its premises, if more than 50% of the establishment's gross receipts within the prior 3 months is from the sale of alcohol, who knowingly fails to prohibit concealed firearms on its premises or who knowingly makes a false statement or record to avoid the prohibition of concealed firearms on its premises under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act shall be guilty of a business offense with a fine up to $5,000.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-11-13   14:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nolu chan (#4)

A bar is a prohibited area.

I doubt the law applies to the security staff who are assumed not to be drinking on duty.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-13   16:08:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#5)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/12/they-basically-saw-black-man-with-gun-police-kill-armed-guard-after-responding-call/

Roberson had a valid gun owner’s license but did not have a concealed-carry permit, WGN reported.

https://fox2now.com/2018/11/12/police-shoot-kill-black-security-guard-detaining-suspect-after-bar-shooting/

A spokeswoman for the Cook County Sheriff's Office said Roberson had a valid FOID card, but did not have a concealed-carry license.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry_in_the_United_States

Open carry theoretically legal in unincorporated rural areas, where permitted by local ordinance. However, per Attorney General opinion open carry is prohibited.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-11-13   18:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nolu chan (#4)

In a bar, it does not mean a thing. A bar is a prohibited area.

Yes, many states have such laws. In NYS, the NYS ABC law prohibits firearms (and gambling) inside bars. It’s typically not enforced, or it wasn’t in my 20 years of service.

Thanks for pointing out Dicktards yella bullshit.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-11-13   18:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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